The failure of feminist Hollywood

BOP

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And the left will continue to double, triple, quadriple down on what they think supports the Narrative, regardless of whether or not it actually works. In all likelyhood, they're receiving gov't grants for churning out the crap they churn out.

"Today's female characters are flat and empty and impossible to relate to. They have no flaws, they immediately succeed at everything they do, and they have no journey of personal growth and development."

 

SamSpade

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I really haven't noticed this trend in movies except to say - I haven't been looking for one either. One thing I HAVE noticed is that in TV shows and especially commercials, the idiot, the dope, the one who's doing stupid things is always the husband or dad. THAT, I've read, IS due to political correctness.
 
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SamSpade

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Ok - I decided to knuckle down and watch the video - all of it. I normally **HATE** doing this because I can read a lot faster than I can watch something, and I can process the words better when I read them than have to listen to someone talk and throw images at me.

Couple things - one, she's got a thing about She-Hulk. I would remind the woman in the video that She-Hulk has been around for forty years, and yeah, may have been CREATED to satisfy some social need - just as LOTS of comic characters were, after forty previous years in a genre totally dominated by male characters (and villains). But She-Hulk has been around, and has been in TV and animated series before. And they did actually cast an actress with some seriously impressive creds - Tatiana Maslani, best known for Orphan Black, where she played five major characters and several lesser ones, at the same time.

I've seen the new series - and if you've watched it, it's largely comedy. So a lot of hey there's a girl Hulk is played for laughs, because a reluctant hero - unlike many of our Avengers and wannabe Avengers who fight crime WILLINGLY - is what she is. She became a superhero by accident, unlike say, Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, Hawkeye or Black Widow who not only do it for a living, they chose the life.

But I WILL say, there's been entirely too much wokism and tokenism which makes the resultant character that emerges - bland. Jodie Whittaker's Doctor is almost unwatchable, although this may be partly due to the WRITING, where especially in the first season, the stories were huge social commentary with a big club on the head. Her insertion into the show was pure tokenism, and we've not only seen that some future Doctor will be a black woman (because the Doctor is, after all, a time traveler) - the NEXT Doctor is going to be a gay black man. I am not kidding. "Ghostbusters" was a fun, interesting and classic movie - its female redux was dumb and forgettable. Recasting or rebranding a character JUST for the sake of changing the race or sex of a character is going to lead to dull characters UNLESS you write them well - case in point - Nick Fury in the comics is white. Samuel L Jackson does it so well, you'd never know it.

But she's right about several other leads - Captain Marvel, Rey - they're boring characters. Actually I think all of the subsequent Star Wars movies are dull, and only serve to be entertaining WHEN THEY SHOW the original cast members.
 

SamSpade

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well, PC is alive and doing well in current movies.
I dont watch movies anymore, but had to, I had to, see the remake of the Magnificent 7.
While I love the original (sans Dean Martin, who wasn't in it or any of the sequels) - it itself is a remake of a Japanese classic Seven Samurai, often regarded as one of the greatest films of all time and voted best foreign film of all time.

It's very rare that ANY remake - especially of a classic - ever is as good as the original. Remakes seem to exist to cash in on the original film's notoriety, but are never as good.
 

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I really haven't noticed this trend in movies except to say - I haven't been looking for one either. One thing I HAVE noticed is that in TV shows and especially commercials, the idiot, the dope, the one who's doing stupid things is always the husband or dad. THAT, I've read, IS due to political correctness.
I have actually noticed this, in of all places, cartoons. In a cartoon household, the woman is the leader, smart, and the husband is a blithering dolt.
 

SamSpade

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I have actually noticed this, in of all places, cartoons. In a cartoon household, the woman is the leader, smart, and the husband is a blithering dolt.
ALL commercials are this way. And TV sitcoms. And pretty much all of TV. The only "idiot" women are comic relief.
 

blacklabman

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While I love the original (sans Dean Martin, who wasn't in it or any of the sequels) - it itself is a remake of a Japanese classic Seven Samurai, often regarded as one of the greatest films of all time and voted best foreign film of all time.

It's very rare that ANY remake - especially of a classic - ever is as good as the original. Remakes seem to exist to cash in on the original film's notoriety, but are never as good.
Seven Samurai was just on TCM. I recorded it and will be watched again soon.
 
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vraiblonde

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It's very rare that ANY remake - especially of a classic - ever is as good as the original.

True Grit. A very different movie than the John Wayne version, true to the book, which was a great read.

Anyway:

Hollywood isn't supposed to be reality, it's supposed to be entertainment. And Hollywood "feminists" are a joke. Aside from hookers, they hold the only job where your interview consists of taking your clothes off and giving your interviewer a blow job. They could all rise up and refuse - insist on being treated with dignity - but they don't.....because even Meryl Streep knows that if she doesn't suck a dick, some other starlet will and then SHE will become Meryl Streep. Why do you think she clapped like a barking seal at child rapist Roman Polanski winning an Oscar? Why do you think top name female stars all cuddled up to Harvey Weinstein? They want to be famous more than they want to have self-respect. The adulation of strangers on social media makes up for the self-hatred they live every day.

So when these doltish sluts get on their high horse and start preaching, I laugh in their whore faces. *I* didn't have to suck dick to get where I am. Most women don't and THEY are the role models, not some cum dumpster with a face lift and fake boobs.

So there.
 

Kinnakeet

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True Grit. A very different movie than the John Wayne version, true to the book, which was a great read.

Anyway:

Hollywood isn't supposed to be reality, it's supposed to be entertainment. And Hollywood "feminists" are a joke. Aside from hookers, they hold the only job where your interview consists of taking your clothes off and giving your interviewer a blow job. They could all rise up and refuse - insist on being treated with dignity - but they don't.....because even Meryl Streep knows that if she doesn't suck a dick, some other starlet will and then SHE will become Meryl Streep. Why do you think she clapped like a barking seal at child rapist Roman Polanski winning an Oscar? Why do you think top name female stars all cuddled up to Harvey Weinstein? They want to be famous more than they want to have self-respect. The adulation of strangers on social media makes up for the self-hatred they live every day.

So when these doltish sluts get on their high horse and start preaching, I laugh in their whore faces. *I* didn't have to suck dick to get where I am. Most women don't and THEY are the role models, not some cum dumpster with a face lift and fake boobs.

So there.
Hell yeah I like your style
 

BOP

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Mary Sue's .... no growth, sudden experts
I gave up on a scifi/fantasy space adventure series, recently. The writing was actually well-done, but the protagonist was sort of like that goddess chick who sprang fully grown from her father's head. Athena, fully grown and fully armed/both female and male, just growing out of her father Zeus' head like Bob from one of the early Fallout games growing out of the ghoul's head. No growth, no development, just lots of bad people around the universe (multiverse?) trying to kill her.
 

Clem72

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Ok - I decided to knuckle down and watch the video - all of it. I normally **HATE** doing this because I can read a lot faster than I can watch something, and I can process the words better when I read them than have to listen to someone talk and throw images at me.

Couple things - one, she's got a thing about She-Hulk. I would remind the woman in the video that She-Hulk has been around for forty years, and yeah, may have been CREATED to satisfy some social need - just as LOTS of comic characters were, after forty previous years in a genre totally dominated by male characters (and villains). But She-Hulk has been around, and has been in TV and animated series before. And they did actually cast an actress with some seriously impressive creds - Tatiana Maslani, best known for Orphan Black, where she played five major characters and several lesser ones, at the same time.

I've seen the new series - and if you've watched it, it's largely comedy. So a lot of hey there's a girl Hulk is played for laughs, because a reluctant hero - unlike many of our Avengers and wannabe Avengers who fight crime WILLINGLY - is what she is. She became a superhero by accident, unlike say, Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, Hawkeye or Black Widow who not only do it for a living, they chose the life.

But I WILL say, there's been entirely too much wokism and tokenism which makes the resultant character that emerges - bland. Jodie Whittaker's Doctor is almost unwatchable, although this may be partly due to the WRITING, where especially in the first season, the stories were huge social commentary with a big club on the head. Her insertion into the show was pure tokenism, and we've not only seen that some future Doctor will be a black woman (because the Doctor is, after all, a time traveler) - the NEXT Doctor is going to be a gay black man. I am not kidding. "Ghostbusters" was a fun, interesting and classic movie - its female redux was dumb and forgettable. Recasting or rebranding a character JUST for the sake of changing the race or sex of a character is going to lead to dull characters UNLESS you write them well - case in point - Nick Fury in the comics is white. Samuel L Jackson does it so well, you'd never know it.

But she's right about several other leads - Captain Marvel, Rey - they're boring characters. Actually I think all of the subsequent Star Wars movies are dull, and only serve to be entertaining WHEN THEY SHOW the original cast members.

I watched the first She Hulk episode. Don't mind that she is "different" than the hulk, perhaps even better because she doesn't have to do anything special to be a smart hulk rather than a brute. That said I did not appreciate the belittling of men in the explanation of her abilities. She literally says she can control her hulking-out because women always have to control their anger given they constantly have to deal with men. Wow.
 

Hijinx

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Hijinx is a straight male married for 59 years to a lovely woman.
He is definitely not available.

But i would like to add something to Vrai's post on women who endure sex for their careers.
According to Hollywood history many males have spent time on their knees also.

Homosexuals , and child molesters, whores and perverts are prevalent in California and in Hollywood.
 
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