The Kennedy assassination

Pete

Repete
Yep. The Ruby part is just way too coincidental, especially when coupled with his lame excuse.

JFK was reckless, with his bimbos and playboy behavior. He wasn't a terribly strong leader nor was he particularly intelligent; pretty much all he had was charisma and Daddy's money. It's not a stretch to think the CIA or the mafia or whoever really controls government in this country took him out of the equation. Look what happened under LBJ: welfare, entitlement...um, Vietnam.

Forget all the so-called "evidence" - I have never personally seen any of it, documents can be falsified, there are different accounts of what "really" happened, who was involved with who, etc etc etc. What we, the people sitting here at our computers 50 years later with no access to anything, do know is that Oswald was arrested for the assassination and Jack Ruby killed him while he was being escorted to jail by a number of police officers, and gave the reason that he wanted to spare Jackie the trauma of a trial. That right there is bull####, no two ways about it. It's plain and simple bull####, which tells me there is much much more to the story and it has been covered up.
His brother getting whacked a couple years later also makes me wonder if someone was getting even with the Kennedy clan. Maybe Joe owed someone something.
 

vraiblonde

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Yeah. We were just talking the other day how Fat Tony, Guido Jr. and Pauly, the other Pauly, killed JFK because he wasn't moving fast enough on civil rights for the black man...
Do you deny that Socialism is good for business among the powerful?
 

vraiblonde

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His brother getting whacked a couple years later also makes me wonder if someone was getting even with the Kennedy clan. Maybe Joe owed someone something.
And then there's that. I don't think old Joe had anything to do with it, I think it was more to rouse the rabble and create martyrs to rally 'round.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
His brother getting whacked a couple years later also makes me wonder if someone was getting even with the Kennedy clan. Maybe Joe owed someone something.
No, see, what happened is, see, RFK whacked Hoffa to pay off election debts from the Chicago thing, that thing, not the other thing, BUT wouldn't tell them where the body was, see, because he wanted it as insurance and then, the mob got all like "Where is he!?" and Bobby was like "Where is who?" and then, at some point, it dawns on everyone that Joe was right all along about the Nazi's; At least THEY didn't have to answer to the grease-balls. Then, see...Mussolini started acting up and said 'fogetaaboutit' and Hitler was like 'Wha???" and then, The Jew, the Irish one, from the East side says...
 

SamSpade

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I seem to remember reading that credible, real threats to our Presidents happen all the time - they only REALLY hit the news when they succeed or partially succeed.

Did John Hinckley Jr work alone? That one was close, and Reagan DID get shot.
How about Squeaky Fromme, or Sara Jane Moore? Did they act alone?
The guy who shot George Wallace had previously been thwarted trying to kill Nixon.

It's actually pretty easy to look up failed attempts if you're just looking at the high profile ones or the ones that made the news because they were so spectacularly stupid (like the different men who have opened fire at the White House over the years). But it's like that line in "Men in Black" where Tommy Lee Jones says

"There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT! "

Assassination attempts happen all the time. From what I read, they're acting alone, because they're usually bat#### crazy when they do it.
 

Larry Gude

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I seem to remember reading that credible, real threats to our Presidents happen all the time - they only REALLY hit the news when they succeed or partially succeed.

Did John Hinckley Jr work alone? That one was close, and Reagan DID get shot.
How about Squeaky Fromme, or Sara Jane Moore? Did they act alone?
The guy who shot George Wallace had previously been thwarted trying to kill Nixon.

It's actually pretty easy to look up failed attempts if you're just looking at the high profile ones or the ones that made the news because they were so spectacularly stupid (like the different men who have opened fire at the White House over the years). But it's like that line in "Men in Black" where Tommy Lee Jones says

"There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet, and the only way these people can get on with their happy lives is that they DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT! "

Assassination attempts happen all the time. From what I read, they're acting alone, because they're usually bat#### crazy when they do it.
OK but, Arquillian Battle cruisers is one thing. We care WAY too much about presidents. We have an entire line of succession that would require an Arquillian Battle cruiser fleet to get them all specifically so Arquillian battle cruisers CAN'T ruin our day.
 

vraiblonde

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Oh, I absolutely believe there are lone nuts out there. I just don't think Oswald was one of them.

The most successful criminals are the ones you never hear about...because they got away with it.
 

Larry Gude

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Oh, I absolutely believe there are lone nuts out there. I just don't think Oswald was one of them.

The most successful criminals are the ones you never hear about...because they got away with it.
The most successful criminals are the ones that are officially sanctioned. We know all their names. And they still get away with it.
 

Retrodeb54

Surely you jest ...
His brother getting whacked a couple years later also makes me wonder if someone was getting even with the Kennedy clan. Maybe Joe owed someone something.
I thought on this point again this morning. Seeing what happened when he tried to get his foot in the door. I don't think so much that it was a get even with the family thing. I do feel it was another warning that they weren't welcome in the White House. That so much power is dangerous. The Kennedys were all powerful, strong willed and do it my way men.

:coffee:
 

vraiblonde

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The Kennedys were all powerful, strong willed and do it my way men.
I see both Jack and especially Bobby as idealists, and money/power guys hate the idealistic unless they can control them and use them for gain.

I almost never believe that what we see is what's really happening. There's always something more to the story that we rabble are not privy to.
 

AnthonyJames

R.I.P. My Brother Rick
I don't care who killed them, I'm just grateful that someone did or the Dead Kennedys would not have had a name for their band.
 

GregV814

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odd in a way that hours after the disappearing jet over South Asia/Vietnam, the authorities knew two passengers were holding stolen passports. and it was only a few hours after 9/11 the identities of the men were established.....
 

Larry Gude

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o and it was only a few hours after 9/11 the identities of the men were established.....
Why is it odd? The FBI had been tracking them for some time. The CIA new who they were. The Justice Department knew who they were and told the FBI to back off because the law didn't allow for further investigation because some of the FBI info came from CIA.

What's odd is when the person who denied the FBI's request for deeper investigation is put on the commission to investigate...what went 'wrong'. That's odd.
 

Retrodeb54

Surely you jest ...
odd in a way that hours after the disappearing jet over South Asia/Vietnam, the authorities knew two passengers were holding stolen passports. and it was only a few hours after 9/11 the identities of the men were established.....
...and? This has what to do with the Kennedy assassination? Why not start another thread on your subject.

:coffee:
 

Larry Gude

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...and? This has what to do with the Kennedy assassination? Why not start another thread on your subject.

:coffee:
I think he was suggesting they knew who Oswald was pretty soon. And they did. Because they did. And the ghost of Lee Harvey haunts us to this day.
 
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