The Violent Left Says They Want a Civil War: Antifa Forming A ‘Red Army’

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Pixelated
I’m going to have to change my ‘youre retarded’ to a literal statement if you keep acting retarded. The 2ndA is not intended to protect the rights of police or government officials. Your spin notwithstanding.
Quite honestly, I don't give a damn what you call me. You can show just how childish you are all you want.

The 2A doesn't have intentions. It is just a written statement saying the right of the people shall not be infringed. Like I said, that right exists even if the constitution doesn't. It's designed to limit government's intrusion on that right. And that right extends to everyone - cops, government workers, even members of congress.
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
I get it, you are the worst kind of 2ndA supporter.

You see ‘threats’ that aren’t there to justify your fear of someone who is simply carrying.
That is exactly NOT what I am saying, and I don't see any reason to keep clarifying.

Gun control advocates go about wanting to infringe upon a person' right to arms in very much the same way that hate speech folks want to abridge others' right to freedom of speech,
inasmuch as thy perceive that some SPEECH is threatening to others and therefore not subject to protection. They try to extend this concept to a person's right to carry a weapon
on their person as somehow a kind of "threat" to others, and therefore, not to be protected.

Some rights have limits, and ones that reasonable people accept. For example, if you go into a local bar and call them all a bunch of queers - and they beat the sh!t out of you -
there's a good chance the judge won't rule in your favor, because picking a fight - "fighting words" - is not a use of speech protected under the law. You provoked them.
Deliberately. Leftie snowflakes are trying to claim that walking about with a MAGA hat or flying a Confederate flag constitutes the same kind of insult worthy of absolving reprisals
against such people.

Actually they go so far as - being "offended" is enough to warrant an infringement on your God-given and constitutionally protected rights.
Which it isn't. Because there's no end to what people will claim "offends" them.

So in my observation - simply CARRYING a weapon does not constitute a threat - but threatening people with it - IS.
Especially if you not only threaten, but you or your organization has the habit of actually using them against people.
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
Holy crap! The constitution isn't there as a matter of need; it's a matter of it just is. Our rights are born to us. The constitution just outlines the limitations on government from infringing on what is already naturally ours. Without the constitution, our rights are still ours. The constitution doesn't define our rights. It doesn't grant our rights. I don't something written down tell me there are trees in a forest. I know they're already there.

And the display of guns isn't something I fear. It's the the known intentions of the carrier that causes me to question their motives. But, my thoughts end where my questioning their motives enter into demanding they can't carry. That's not up to me. I'm pretty careful not to allow my personal sentiments about someone, who I know has ill-intentions, to demand their rights be relinquished simply because I know they could harm an innocent person. That's the big debate going on about guns. We don't want violent criminals and mentally ill people having guns. Those are reasonable demands. Some would go as far as demanding people that have acted out violently or attached themselves to violent group not be allowed to have guns. Should people that acted out in violence - especially innocent people - or attach themselves to extremist or violent groups be allowed to have guns? Maybe that should be open for a debate.

The consequential thing about rights is, until you have proven to be unfit to carry arms (criminal conviction or mentally ill), you retain those rights.
So what is the point of the op? That these people are legally exercising their rights, and good on them?

Quite honestly, I don't give a damn what you call me. You can show just how childish you are all you want.

The 2A doesn't have intentions. It is just a written statement saying the right of the people shall not be infringed. Like I said, that right exists even if the constitution doesn't. It's designed to limit government's intrusion on that right. And that right extends to everyone - cops, government workers, even members of congress.
You are being retarded, that’s what you will get called. Your spin notwithstanding, the constitution protects the citizens from intrusions by government and police.
That is exactly NOT what I am saying, and I don't see any reason to keep clarifying.

Gun control advocates go about wanting to infringe upon a person' right to arms in very much the same way that hate speech folks want to abridge others' right to freedom of speech,
inasmuch as thy perceive that some SPEECH is threatening to others and therefore not subject to protection. They try to extend this concept to a person's right to carry a weapon
on their person as somehow a kind of "threat" to others, and therefore, not to be protected.

Some rights have limits, and ones that reasonable people accept. For example, if you go into a local bar and call them all a bunch of queers - and they beat the sh!t out of you -
there's a good chance the judge won't rule in your favor, because picking a fight - "fighting words" - is not a use of speech protected under the law. You provoked them.
Deliberately. Leftie snowflakes are trying to claim that walking about with a MAGA hat or flying a Confederate flag constitutes the same kind of insult worthy of absolving reprisals
against such people.

Actually they go so far as - being "offended" is enough to warrant an infringement on your God-given and constitutionally protected rights.
Which it isn't. Because there's no end to what people will claim "offends" them.

So in my observation - simply CARRYING a weapon does not constitute a threat - but threatening people with it - IS.
Especially if you not only threaten, but you or your organization has the habit of actually using them against people.
Now we are back to you showing where the people in that photo have committed any crimes or threatened people with their weapons.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Your spin notwithstanding, the constitution protects the citizens from intrusions by government and police.
And here I thought the subject was the 2ndA and the fact that the protections therein extend to all citizens. Oh wait...it is...and you just very disingenuously tried to redirect.

Fail.
 

Kyle

Having a Beer while the world burns!
PREMO Member
Reading skills are superb. Show me where the 2A - the ONLY subject of this thread - "protects the citizens from intrusions by government and police."

I'll wait.
Did he ever say why he hates America so much?
 

Kyle

Having a Beer while the world burns!
PREMO Member
Ever since he was introduced to some guy named "Bubba" whilst incarcerated, he's had a bad outlook.
Being a fine upstanding socialist democrat you'd think he'd have been used to that sort of thing.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
So what is the point of the op? That these people are legally exercising their rights, and good on them?
:confused:

Did you read the excerpt in the initial post? It had nothing to do with guns, and all to do with the violence from the thugs and it not having (yet) generated any prosecution. The actual excerpt (you didn't even have to go to the link) said NOTHING about the people being armed as a problem, but rather the violence they have actually, physically, undisputedly generated.

You....well....you did READ the excerpt before complaining about it, right?
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
Reading skills are superb. Show me where the 2A - the ONLY subject of this thread - "protects the citizens from intrusions by government and police."

I'll wait.
You are an idiot Mo.

You spent half this thread claiming this thread had nothing to do with the 2ndA.

Why do you hate the 2ndA so much Mo?
Have the librarian explain what the bill of rights are while you are there for your remedial reading class.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
You are an idiot Mo.

You spent half this thread claiming this thread had nothing to do with the 2ndA.

Why do you hate the 2ndA so much Mo?
Have the librarian explain what the bill of rights are while you are there for your remedial reading class.
Reading skills are superb. Show me where the 2A - the ONLY subject of this thread - "protects the citizens from intrusions by government and police."

Sill waiting. :coffee:
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
You are an idiot Mo.

You spent half this thread claiming this thread had nothing to do with the 2ndA.

Why do you hate the 2ndA so much Mo?
Have the librarian explain what the bill of rights are while you are there for your remedial reading class.
:confused:

Did you read the excerpt in the initial post? It had nothing to do with guns, and all to do with the violence from the thugs and it not having (yet) generated any prosecution. The actual excerpt (you didn't even have to go to the link) said NOTHING about the people being armed as a problem, but rather the violence they have actually, physically, undisputedly generated.

You....well....you did READ the excerpt before complaining about it, right?
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
God damn you are stupid mo.
:confused:

Did you read the excerpt in the initial post? It had nothing to do with guns, and all to do with the violence from the thugs and it not having (yet) generated any prosecution. The actual excerpt (you didn't even have to go to the link) said NOTHING about the people being armed as a problem, but rather the violence they have actually, physically, undisputedly generated.

You....well....you did READ the excerpt before complaining about it, right?
 
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