They have some nerve

Clem72

Well-Known Member
It says the internet only plans (assuming the ones that came from Metrocast) are grandfathered. So I wanted to check and see what their regular plans are. They won't show you anything unless you put an address in, and when I do it says since i'm already a customer I have to call just to find out what's available.

What a crock of crap. They can't even show what packages they offer?
 

PeoplesElbow

Well-Known Member
It says the internet only plans (assuming the ones that came from Metrocast) are grandfathered. So I wanted to check and see what their regular plans are. They won't show you anything unless you put an address in, and when I do it says since i'm already a customer I have to call just to find out what's available.

What a crock of crap. They can't even show what packages they offer?
They never did, you have to question them, ask if they have specials and discounts etc.
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
It's called a monopoly
Find out when their franchise agreement with the county is up and write or call the Cable TV Board.

Just be prepared to hear a lot of laughing.

So monopoly may not be the right word. Invited kidnapper?

Why we don't have open competition, I don't know if it's some old law or what.
But the story I got was that every time the county puts the franchise contract out for bit there is only one bidder.
The other, major companies refuse to even bid. The cited reason(s) are there is simply not enough of a customer base to make it economically feasible and part of that is the amount of money they would have to sink into the existing system to bring it in line with the rest of their operations.

In short, we need ABB more than they need us.

Not that Verizon wouldn't provide FiOS to parts of the county if they could. They do a few small patches along 235.
Something about areas that wee not developed when the cable tv ordinace was enacted.
 

Clem72

Well-Known Member
They never did, you have to question them, ask if they have specials and discounts etc.

I don't need to know about specials and discounts. I wanted to know the specs for their packages. I can see from this sheet that have a "premier", what is that? Is it 50mbit, or 500mbit? Whats the upload? Are there data-caps? Etc.
 

gary_webb

Damned glad to meet you
Not that Verizon wouldn't provide FiOS to parts of the county if they could. They do a few small patches along 235.
Something about areas that wee not developed when the cable tv ordinace was enacted.
DP4G only, telephone and internet. The video franchise is not worth it because there is not enough population density. Why place 1 mile of cable to reach 4 homes when you can place 1 mile of cable somewhere else and reach 20? It's a business decision
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
If I may ...

One would think, since St. Mary's County borders a large portion of Charles County, and borders Calvert by a pretty narrow river, at a minimum, Comcast should be able to service some portions of St. Mary's. If SMECO can run power distribution lines next to the Solomons bridge, Comcast can do the same, as well over the border of Charles County.

But here are some recent numbers.

Calvert County population (2019 number) 92,525 ~ 416.3 inhabitants per square mile. With a land mass of 345 square miles
Charles County population (2019 number) 163,257 ~ 320.2 inhabitants per square mile. With a land mass area of 643 square miles
St. Mary's County population (2019 number) 113,510 ~ 238 people per square mile. With a land mass area of 764 square miles

Edit: It sure is damn crowed in Calvert now. Sure explains a lot. And the fools in government want more houses, apartment, and condos built. Idiots.
 

NorthBeachPerso

Honorary SMIB
If I may ...

One would think, since St. Mary's County borders a large portion of Charles County, and borders Calvert by a pretty narrow river, at a minimum, Comcast should be able to service some portions of St. Mary's. If SMECO can run power distribution lines next to the Solomons bridge, Comcast can do the same, as well over the border of Charles County.

But here are some recent numbers.

Calvert County population (2019 number) 92,525 ~ 416.3 inhabitants per square mile. With a land mass of 345 square miles
Charles County population (2019 number) 163,257 ~ 320.2 inhabitants per square mile. With a land mass area of 643 square miles
St. Mary's County population (2019 number) 113,510 ~ 238 people per square mile. With a land mass area of 764 square miles

Edit: It sure is damn crowed in Calvert now. Sure explains a lot. And the fools in government want more houses, apartment, and condos built. Idiots.

Unfortunately the way the legislation is set up each County is responsible for a cable provider for the entire County. One of the problems with the bidding process is who owns the lines, currently that's the cable provider. So if a new company "wins" the bid to provide service it has to buy the lines from the current provider as well as pass an anti-trust review.

As far as Calvert's Commissioners are concerned, what did you expect when you voted for Republicans who used to be part of the Good Ol' Boy Democrat machine until they changed parties to run? The machine that got all the overbuilding started 40 years ago.
 

gary_webb

Damned glad to meet you
If I may ...

One would think, since St. Mary's County borders a large portion of Charles County, and borders Calvert by a pretty narrow river, at a minimum, Comcast should be able to service some portions of St. Mary's. If SMECO can run power distribution lines next to the Solomons bridge, Comcast can do the same, as well over the border of Charles County.
Video and internet distribution is by franchise by county. Power distribution is by the Department of Energy's North American Power Grid eastern region. Apples and oranges
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
If I may ...

Unfortunately the way the legislation is set up each County is responsible for a cable provider for the entire County. One of the problems with the bidding process is who owns the lines, currently that's the cable provider. So if a new company "wins" the bid to provide service it has to buy the lines from the current provider as well as pass an anti-trust review.

As far as Calvert's Commissioners are concerned, what did you expect when you voted for Republicans who used to be part of the Good Ol' Boy Democrat machine until they changed parties to run? The machine that got all the overbuilding started 40 years ago.
Don't blame me. I voted for the other guy.:lmao:

But on a serious note. Why can't two, or more, providers run on the same lines at the same time?
 

Sneakers

Just sneakin' around....
But on a serious note. Why can't two, or more, providers run on the same lines at the same time?
Because it's more than just wires. The wire has to be connected to a single piece of end gear, ownership becomes paramount. The wire has a finite data capacity, adding another vendor 'steals' bandwidth and lowers the bandwidth of the owner. In some circumstances, vendors rent bandwidth, but only if they designed it that way, with tons of excess capacity, and that costs money they may not get back and pass on to you.
 

DaSDGuy

Well-Known Member
If I may ...


Don't blame me. I voted for the other guy.:lmao:

But on a serious note. Why can't two, or more, providers run on the same lines at the same time?
If I may ...


Don't blame me. I voted for the other guy.:lmao:

But on a serious note. Why can't two, or more, providers run on the same lines at the same time?
Works for the electric company. SMECO has to allow other companies access to their power lines.
 

NorthBeachPerso

Honorary SMIB
Works for the electric company. SMECO has to allow other companies access to their power lines.

Plain electrons are different than ones carrying content. The lines are owned by Comcast which I have. You're my next door neighbor and have Uncle Bob's Cable and Turkey Parts with a totally different channel lineup. Who gets what? That's where the bandwidth argument comes in.

One thing I've learned over the years about cable service is that whichever company the other guy has is always better than what you have.

SMECO also gets a carriage fee for electric going in to its grid. And that's even somewhat of a shell game.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Plain electrons are different than ones carrying content. The lines are owned by Comcast which I have. You're my next door neighbor and have Uncle Bob's Cable and Turkey Parts with a totally different channel lineup. Who gets what? That's where the bandwidth argument comes in.


Actually you could ...... its called a VLAN
 
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