They'll make you a Mormon whether you want it or not!

[vraiblonde]

http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/4/10/105053.shtml

Proxy baptisms are conducted in Mormon temples and offer salvation to the dead. Church members stand in to be dunked in water in the names of the deceased non-Mormons, a ritual the church says is required to get to heaven. However, the practice has caused tension with members of other faiths, especially Jews, who find it arrogant and insulting.

"Arrogant and insulting" are good words to describe it.

The Mormon church has long collected names from government documents and other records worldwide for the rituals. The practice is primarily intended to offer salvation to the ancestors of Mormons, but many others are included. The church says the practice does not force a change of religion in the afterlife since Mormons believe the dead can still accept or reject the offering.

And we talk about Muslims.

 

[BuddyLee]

Im going to have to side with the Jews on this one. Its arrogant and insulting.

 

[TWLs wife]

I got to read this.

 

[Pete]

Re: I got to read this.

Originally posted by TIGGER6035
Nothing has changed, I still have nothing to say.

 

[BuddyLee]

I was waiting for that

 

[Angel]

Doesn't this mean that it's only legit through the eyes of the Mormons? It's insane regardless, but still only the Mormon's believe what they believe.... Besides these are the same people who have 50 wives each.... Back in the day when I was weighing my beliefs I decided to check out my options and believe it or not I had the Mormon Missionary's come to my house..... After that I figured out I was happy w/ what I am and what I believe and I'm still not Mormon.

 

[darkriver4362]

 

[darkriver4362]

I'd say label them a terrorist group, and let the FBI's SWAT unit take care of them. All I have ever heard from them is blah blah blah you're going to hell BS....F' It.

 

[vraiblonde]

Too bad Janet Reno isn't still Attorney General. She'd fix their little red wagon.

 

[tlatchaw]

Originally posted by darkriver4362
I'd say label them a terrorist group, and let the FBI's SWAT unit take care of them. All I have ever heard from them is blah blah blah you're going to hell BS....F' It.

Been there, done that. Or have you forgotten what Janet Reno and Bill Clinton did in Waco?

 

[darkriver4362]

Originally posted by tlatchaw
Been there, done that. Or have you forgotten what Janet Reno and Bill Clinton did in Waco?

True, do it again.

 

[Kain99]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have continued posthumously baptizing Jewish Holocaust victims into the Mormon faith, adding more concentration camp victims to its roster of those offered conversion in the afterlife.

This is the most digusting act of hatred I have ever heard of! What are they thinking? My God! Truly evil.... Not that I think It means a fricking thing but how superior can you be?

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by darkriver4362
True, do it again.

I think you missed the point.

 

[willie]

Originally posted by Kain99
This is the most digusting act of hatred I have ever heard of! What are they thinking? My God! Truly evil.... Not that I think It means a fricking thing but how superior can you be?

Arrogance yes, hatred? I don't think so.......you need more anger management.

 

[Tonio]

Originally posted by Kain99
This is the most digusting act of hatred I have ever heard of! What are they thinking? My God! Truly evil.... Not that I think It means a fricking thing but how superior can you be?

Great point. That's one reason why I don't belong to an organized religion. Their attitude seems to be, "We're right and everyone else is wrong! We're going to heaven and you're not--nyahh nyahh!"

 

[BuddyLee]

Originally posted by Tonio
Great point. That's one reason why I don't belong to an organized religion. Their attitude seems to be, "We're right and everyone else is wrong! We're going to heaven and you're not--nyahh nyahh!"

 

[darkriver4362]

Originally posted by vraiblonde
I think you missed the point.

Don't I always?

 

[Kain99]

Originally posted by willie
Arrogance yes, hatred? I don't think so.......you need more anger management.

You have a right to your opinion but I still say it's hatred! Pure and unadulterated. If I live my life as a jew and belived and suffered and died then some idiot came along and tried to take that all away.... I'd call him a Racist!!! which in my book = hatred.

This story really bugs me.

 

[Hessian]

Ease up...

Did I throw a fit when my Catholic uncle paid a priest to light candles and pray the rosery to help my Grandfather get out of "purgatory?" (When he never attended a Catholic church in his life????)

No...I find it a bit odd this non-Biblical practice but I won't get bent out of shape.

The Mormons are driven by their endless quest for genealogies because of this "Baptism for the dead" (another unBiblical practice). I know they have actually caused some archives to close external access (in Germany).

Have I used Mormon resources? sure.
Does it bothered me that they have performed some strange ritual that has no meaning whatsoever either now or later? No.
Have they hounded me to join their cult since I used their archives? never. (they're very polite and helpful).
Its little different that some Mullah or Imam calling down curses upon the Great Satan and all the infidels (that's ME )
It has no effect at all because no one beyond his fanatics is listening...certainly not "Allah."

Please be aware that they have numerous odd beliefs and demanding that the FBI go after them is a little funny...It is commonly known that many of the top staff of the FBI ARE Mormons.

 

[vraiblonde]

Well, Hessian, I'm glad you're not bothered by religious zealots pushing their beliefs on complete strangers. I, however, am bothered by it. And obviously the Jewish people whose ancestors are being converted post-mortem are bothered by it.

It takes away the identity of the deceased person and is an invasion of privacy. A non-religious example would be if Larry died tomorrow and John Kerry went in and changed his voter registration to say he was a Democrat. Or signed him up to be a PETA charter member. It changes the person's legacy without their consent.

It's fraud and it should be prosecuted.