This should get interesting

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
The NRA’s Fight in New York Is For All Americans

The allegations of malfeasance made by New York are against, among others, the NRA’s executive director, Wayne LaPierre. The details are little more newsworthy, as far as we can tell, than complaints already aired in recent years in news stories in the Times and other publications. The gist is that millions of dollars were spent on personal luxuries and in ways that Ms. James deems unfitting for a public charity.

This isn’t a case, though, of those alleged torts having been discovered in the normal course. Ms. James vowed to go after the NRA when she was running for attorney general in the first place.
That would be troubling enough circumstance, if we were the judge (a stretch to be sure), to throw the case out in the first place. The NRA’s real tort, in the view of New York, is that it is the leading advocate for enforcing the Second Amendment.

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The more astonishing suit is not the one Ms. James filed against the NRA but the one the NRA filed against her. It opens by quoting Ms. James as vowing during her election campaign to “take down the NRA” — not, the NRA alleges, by “refuting” the organization’s “policy positions or by advocating for gun control legislation” but by “wielding the powers” of the attorney general to “dismantle the NRA as a not-for-profit corporation.”

It also says Ms. James “maligned the NRA as a ‘terrorist organization’ and a ‘criminal enterprise,’ and vowed that financial institutions and donors linked to the NRA would be pursued by law enforcement — just like supporters of Al Qaeda or the mafia.” The NRA also says, in an astonishing paragraph in its complaint, that it was tipped off to Ms. James’ plans by her predecessor, Eric Schneiderman.


Mr. Schneiderman, according to the NRA, telephoned an NRA director, Tom King, in late 2017. Then attorney general himself, Mr. Schneiderman, the NRA said, complained that “key Democratic actors blamed the NRA for President Trump’s 2016 election victory, and were brainstorming ways that New York State could weaken the NRA as a political force in 2020.” The NRA suggests that is what is happening.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
New York’s Lawless NRA Lawsuit

At the same time, the effort to dissolve the NRA is nonetheless a plainly partisan political attack. The point here is not to fight nonprofit fraud but a Democratic effort to embarrass and hobble a political opponent, to burden it with expensive and cumbrous litigation, and to weaponize the power of the attorney general’s office for partisan ends.

The NRA does indeed seem to compensate its senior executes rather splendidly, and some of those expenses — Wayne LaPierre’s reported $3.6 million spent on car services and travel consultants over only two years — would raise eyebrows at most similar organizations. But nonprofit executives do not take a vow of poverty, and many of them earn sums comparable to what executives in the for-profit sector make. You may be scandalized by it, but it isn’t a crime.

For comparison: Former Planned Parenthood boss Cecile Richards enjoyed a seven-figure compensation package, and nobody can say the nation’s abortionists didn’t get their money’s worth. The heads of the teachers’ unions are very nicely compensated. Nonprofit or not, if you want Wynton Marsalis to run Jazz at Lincoln Center, it’s going to cost you upward of $2 million a year — which is a lot less than the head of the Metropolitan Museum of Art makes. The CEOs of nonprofit hospital groups sometimes earn tens of millions of dollars. Big salaries and generous expense accounts constitute neither a crime nor a civil offense — those are a matter for the boards and supporters of the NRA and other nonprofit organizations.

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The specific accusations of wrongdoing against NRA honcho Wayne LaPierre are that he spent NRA funds on himself and his family, setting up a front company in order to charge personal expenses to the NRA while camouflaging that fact from the organization and from the IRS. If that were found to be the case, then LaPierre would very likely be convicted of several crimes, both state and federal. But he has not even been charged with any crime at all.

Instead, New York State Attorney General Letitia James is only working to deliver on her campaign promise to ruin the NRA legally after decades of Democrats failing to beat the organization politically. This is part of a nationwide Democratic campaign: In San Francisco, they declared the NRA a “terrorist organization”; New York Governor Andrew Cuomo attempted to use financial regulators to deprive the NRA of access to banking services and insurance, thereby ending its ability to engage in organized public advocacy; in Los Angeles, the city demanded that any NRA member doing business with the city identify himself, an attack on the First Amendment that was almost immediately shut down by a federal judge acknowledging the “overwhelming” evidence that the purpose of this was “to suppress the message of the NRA.”
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Republican Attorneys General Association (RAGA) Chairman Louisiana Attorney blasted James’ “manipulation of our legal system for political gain” in a statement on Thursday afternoon.

“Lawless liberals have hit a new low in their pursuit of defunding the police, discarding the Second Amendment, and deterring our ability to protect ourselves,” Landry wrote. “The New York Attorney General is shamefully abusing her power to target a political adversary, the same way a Saint Louis prosecutor did last month when she took guns away from citizens trying to protect themselves. This action is no different than what Democrats did during the shameful impeachment of President Trump: an attempt to use the levers of government to go after political opponents.”

“From their endorsement of the ‘defund the police’ movement to cancelling our Founding Fathers, and now cancelling our founding principles, there has been a troubling pattern from the Democrat attorneys general in recent months,” Landry continued. “We must stop the madness. Fortunately, the American people can read the tea leaves of this lawsuit – it is a partisan hit job aimed at empowering the mob and endangering law abiding citizens, who respect the Second Amendment.”

https://www.dailywire.com/news/demo...spend-tens-of-millions-in-battleground-states
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
NRA Sues New York Attorney General For Seeking To Dissolve Gun Group

The NRA is arguing defamation over labels James used for it, such as a “criminal enterprise” and “a terrorist organization,” the latter of which San Francisco’s Board of Supervisors has officially declared of the Second Amendment defense group. James also referred to the NRA as a “terrorist” group on the campaign trail two years ago.

On Thursday morning, James announced a lawsuit seeking to dissolve the NRA, alleging years of corruption and numerous legal violations that undermined the group’s non-profit status. She focused on its longtime chief executive Wayne Lapierre as the primary culprit of the NRA’s supposed malfeasance while also suing three other senior members.

“The NRA’s influence has been so powerful that the organization went unchecked for decades while top executives funneled millions into their own pockets,” James said in a statement announcing the suit. “The NRA is fraught with fraud and abuse, which is why today, we seek to dissolve the NRA, because no organization is above the law.”

James estimates that the group’s executives lost more than $64 million within three years.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Democrats In Battleground State Apoplectic Over NY’s NRA Lawsuit: ‘Equivalent Of Alabama AG Suing To Dissolve Planned Parenthood’
Democratic officials in Pennsylvania are worried what impact a lawsuit brought by the New York attorney general against the National Rifle Association (NRA) might have on the 2020 presidential race.

Politico reporter Holly Otterbein said on Thursday after the suit was filed that several Democrats in Pennsylvania, a battleground state President Trump flipped red in 2016, are “panicked” the lawsuit may be interpreted as a Democratic attack on gun rights and the Second Amendment.

“Some Pennsylvania Democratic elected officials are panicked about the NRA lawsuit’s effect on the presidential race. One told me it was an ‘October surprise’: ‘This is the equivalent of Alabama AG suing to dissolve Planned Parenthood for the left,’” Otterbein tweeted.


https://www.dailywire.com/news/demo...abama-ag-suing-to-dissolve-planned-parenthood
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
“We are seeking to dissolve the NRA for years of self-dealing and illegal conduct that violate New York’s charities laws and undermine its own mission. The NRA diverted millions of dollars away from its charitable mission for personal use by senior leadership,” James wrote in the lawsuit. “Our lawsuit charges the NRA as a whole and four senior leaders, including Wayne LaPierre, with failing to manage the NRA’s funds and failing to follow numerous state and federal laws. These actions contributed to the loss of more than $64 million in just three years for the NRA.”


I find it ironic that a NY Democrat is SO CONCERNED about a conservative organization mis spending money

I mean after all if they are redirecting money for personal gain, isn't that less money for Politics and Out Reach
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
HAHA. They will fold like a cheap tent. They are already in dire financial straits and over pay their CEO and have lost too many lawsuits.

Good riddance.

Well, I think the NAACP ought to be looked at, and if there is any financial impropriety found, the entire organization should be dissolved.

The NRA has been in existence since 1871. They're not going anywhere.
 

herb749

Well-Known Member
Well, I think the NAACP ought to be looked at, and if there is any financial impropriety found, the entire organization should be dissolved.

The NRA has been in existence since 1871. They're not going anywhere.


Mfume was removed ( or fired ) from there for misuse of funds. Then the good citizens of district 7 voted him in to replace Cummings. Baltimore loves its crooks.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
“We are seeking to dissolve the NRA for years of self-dealing and illegal conduct that violate New York’s charities laws and undermine its own mission. The NRA diverted millions of dollars away from its charitable mission for personal use by senior leadership,” James wrote in the lawsuit. “Our lawsuit charges the NRA as a whole and four senior leaders, including Wayne LaPierre, with failing to manage the NRA’s funds and failing to follow numerous state and federal laws. These actions contributed to the loss of more than $64 million in just three years for the NRA.”


I find it ironic that a NY Democrat is SO CONCERNED about a conservative organization mis spending money

I mean after all if they are redirecting money for personal gain, isn't that less money for Politics and Out Reach

You're obsessive use of logic is wasted. This isn't even remotely about how money is being spent or misused. It's about destroying their enemies.
 

Crabcatcher79

Well-Known Member
Well, I think the NAACP ought to be looked at, and if there is any financial impropriety found, the entire organization should be dissolved.

The NRA has been in existence since 1871. They're not going anywhere.

They’ve already admitted to going bankrupt due to mismanagement, cancelled their annual meeting , shut down fundraising and laid off dozens of workers.

if you read the documents you wouldn’t be defending their actions.

but sure if that’s the hill you wanna die on feel free.
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
They’ve already admitted to going bankrupt due to mismanagement, cancelled their annual meeting , shut down fundraising and laid off dozens of workers.

if you read the documents you wouldn’t be defending their actions.

but sure if that’s the hill you wanna die on feel free.

You really have comprehension problems. I am not defending anything or anyone. I'm pointing out that it's not the job of an AG to attempt to dissolve any organization simply because you don't like them, or certain people within that organization committed fraud. That's like saying an AG has the power to dissolve WalMart because some of the higher-ups committed some sort of fraud on their shareholders or employees. You go after the fraud, not the organization. It's not an AG's job to abuse their position to dissolve any organization, business, or private entity. That, in and of itself, is fraudulent.

If the NRA is going bankrupt, then the organization goes down on their own failings. The government should not take action to ensure it happens. But, I can assure you, hate the NRA all you want, they aren't going anywhere, and have a right to operate despite you leftist despots' desire to see them go down.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
If the NRA is going bankrupt,

Meanwhile...

James got a lot of attention with her announcement, but it might not have been what she was expecting. Forward-looking Democrats demanded to know whether she was trying to help get Trump elected. Meanwhile, the NRA, which has been gaining 1,000 new members a day since the "defund the police" movement began, immediately filed a lawsuit against James, accusing her of defamation and seeking to squelch the organization's right to free speech.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blo...ng_to_be_the_biggest_nra_fundraiser_ever.html
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
I heard about the 1000 new members per day thing. You can't be a bigger advocate for gun rights than to be the one trying to ban it. Shoot... I'm tempted to join.

I'm just a Life Member. The wife is a "Patriot Level" Life Member though...

I did get this cool eagle statue.... ;-p
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Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
It's too bad the NRA sucks so bad.

They were silent when Philando Castile was shot despite having a concealed carry license.
They were silent when Trump banned bump stocks despite saying in 2017, "We have the next eight years alongside President Trump to undo the Obama transformation of America and set our country back on its rightful, righteous course of freedom."

I think it's time the CMP gets back to its former glory. Guns aren't going anywhere despite the NRA sucking and the left choosing the NRA as the gun boogeyman and if the goal is to prevent deaths, then do the same thing we should do with drugs. Teach people how to use them responsibly. You won't stop mass murders or crazy people just like you won't stop junkies from overdosing but 100% compliance with laws/regulations has never happened at any point in history.
 

Crabcatcher79

Well-Known Member
You really have comprehension problems. I am not defending anything or anyone. I'm pointing out that it's not the job of an AG to attempt to dissolve any organization simply because you don't like them, or certain people within that organization committed fraud. That's like saying an AG has the power to dissolve WalMart because some of the higher-ups committed some sort of fraud on their shareholders or employees. You go after the fraud, not the organization. It's not an AG's job to abuse their position to dissolve any organization, business, or private entity. That, in and of itself, is fraudulent.

If the NRA is going bankrupt, then the organization goes down on their own failings. The government should not take action to ensure it happens. But, I can assure you, hate the NRA all you want, they aren't going anywhere, and have a right to operate despite you leftist despots' desire to see them go down.

The Trump orginization is no longer allowed to operate a charity due to their fraud and self dealing thanks to the NY Ag.

it’s the exact same thing.

If the NRA is guilty of the crimes it was systemic and orginazation wide and the organization should be closed.
A new organization can take its place.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
The Trump organization is no longer allowed to operate a charity due to their fraud and self dealing thanks to the NY Ag.

Liar

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/07/trump-ordered-to-pay-2-million-to-settle-trump-foundation-suit.html

Scarpulla noted that the $2.8 million raised by the foundation had ultimately been delivered to the veterans’ charities for which the funds were intended. But she ordered Trump to pay $2 million, which would have otherwise gone to the foundation if it were still in existence, as damages in the case.

Notre Dame Law School Professor Lloyd Hitoshi Mayer, a tax-law and election specialist, said that such a large settlement is “highly unusual, especially when the funds at issue ultimately did go to veterans charities.”

The ruling “highlights the egregious nature of President Trump’s actions,” Mayer said.



The lawsuit revolved in large part around a January 2016 fundraiser in Iowa to raise money for veterans that went to the Trump Foundation. Underwood accused the fundraiser of being used to influence Trump’s presidential campaign.

“Mr. Trump’s fiduciary duty breaches included allowing his campaign to orchestrate the Fundraiser, allowing his campaign, instead of the Foundation, to direct distribution of the Funds, and using the Fundraiser and distribution of the Funds to further Mr. Trump’s political campaign,” Scarpulla wrote in her ruling.



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