This SOMD headline : 2 year old dies on 4-wheeler

Pandora

New Member
Well, one thing is for sure, I'm glad I'm not a State's Attorney reviewing this and having to make a decision. I still think, all and all, it is going to be tough.
 

BS Gal

Voted Nicest in 08
MMDad said:
:ohwell: I had assumed this was a toy they bought for an older kid, and the little one was riding it. It never crossed my mind that they would have bought a 142 lb. machine for a two year old.

I don't know what to think now.


The news said it was their only kid. Maybe it was the neighbors toy? Ya never know. I grieve for the parents and the child. Been through something like that.
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
Pandora said:
Well, one thing is for sure, I'm glad I'm not a State's Attorney reviewing this and having to make a decision. I still think, all and all, it is going to be tough.
At least they'll get the facts. We only have the newspapers and rumors.
 

candicane

New Member
BS Gal said:
I have been there. My sister drowned in a pool. My mom could not get her out of the pool. Mom was sick on the couch, pool guys left the gate open, two year old died. Should my mom be blamed? Maybe. She's 75 and still carries the guilt from 45 years ago. She'll never get over it. Sorry she was sick, yes? Pool guys f'd up, yes. If she wasn't sick, my sister wouldn't have drowned. This parent is going through guilt we will never fathom. Cut her a break.


I agree with you 100% I am glad that someone else feels the same way. No one can ever understand what these parents have to live with forever. It appears that no one cares..
 

BS Gal

Voted Nicest in 08
MMDad said:
At least they'll get the facts. We only have the newspapers and rumors.
No normal mother ever wants to kill their kid. She'll have to live with this the rest of her life. Very sad. She made a mistake or something. My heart goes out to her.
 

BadGirl

I am so very blessed
candicane said:
The parents will not be charged with anything, because the state of Maryland does not have a law that states it is illegal for anyone under the age limit to ride a atv on private property. The only state at this time where it is illegal is N.C. So I hope that can close the arguments on whether or not these parents should be charged with anything. I have never once said that I agree by any means with a two year old driving a atv alone. I just don't understand why this is everyone else’s problem. I understand that this is a place to make comments and speak freely and if you feel that these people are bad parents and they should be punished, then that is you opinion and opinion are like #######s...everybody has one. I just think that some of the things that people are say are so hurtful. So all of you guys are saying that these parent bought this three year old....well almost three.. because they wanted their son to die? I just can't see it that way. I know this is a human being and not some object or toy, but this was not bought with the intent to kill.
I don't think the case of it being legal or illegal for a 2 year old to operate an ATV on private property has any bearing. They can charge them with Reckless Endangerment or a number of other 'catch-all' type crimes no matter if this specific act is not illegal by a specific law.

SECONDLY.. all of you that are upset that we are talking about it, dragging the parents through it (I don't think I'd be in the forums reading about my childs death) MAYBE if we discuss it, and discuss how stupid and reckless the parents were, MAYBE someone won't put their 2 year old child on an ATV next week-end and MAYBE the next parents can see their child graduate from High School in another 14 years. MAYBE a parent in here that is doing something equally as stupid will read this, wake up and say "What the hell am I thinking?" Stop being stupid and be parent.


'itsbob'
 
BadGirl said:
I don't think the case of it being legal or illegal for a 2 year old to operate an ATV on private property has any bearing. They can charge them with Reckless Endangerment or a number of other 'catch-all' type crimes no matter if this specific act is not illegal by a specific law.

SECONDLY.. all of you that are upset that we are talking about it, dragging the parents through it (I don't think I'd be in the forums reading about my childs death) MAYBE if we discuss it, and discuss how stupid and reckless the parents were, MAYBE someone won't put their 2 year old child on an ATV next week-end and MAYBE the next parents can see their child graduate from High School in another 14 years. MAYBE a parent in here that is doing something equally as stupid will read this, wake up and say "What the hell am I thinking?" Stop being stupid and be parent.


'itsbob'
:clap:
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
wellhellokitty1 said:
I feel sooo sorry for elaine's 20 year old...could you imagine growing up with such a hateful mother? And we wonder why there's so much tragedy and hate in this world. Seriously, it's her children that I feel sorry for now. But let's picture what we're dealing with here keepinitsimple...



A fat slob of a person who only moves from the bed to the couch to the computer so she can spew her hatred to the rest of the world. Then, when someone with a good heart calls her out on it, she throws back insults and hateful mean remarks and sits back on her lard ass and laughs at how clever she is!!! Oh how great it must be to be her!!! She's the same fat ass who complains that she ordered a "triple cheeseburger" instead of a "double" while out in public and holds up the lines, the same disgusting human being who laughs at funeral processions, the same mess that needs to be cleaned up. I pity her...because no matter how much she claims to be happy...her posts say otherwise and prove that no matter how much you claim it, it's not true. Her heart is ugly and black and I laugh thinking about how one day, it'll be her turn. Next time her "perfect" parenting lets her children go to that party they probably shouldn't or ride with that friend who just got their license, and they get shot or god forbid something worse, she'll realize that her hatefulness has left her virtually alone in this world...and that day, the rest of the world will cheer.



This is the last of what I have to say.





Didn't you say this about 100 posts ago??



Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!!
 

bohman

Well-Known Member
BS Gal said:
No normal mother ever wants to kill their kid. She'll have to live with this the rest of her life. Very sad. She made a mistake or something. My heart goes out to her.

:yay: There's a lot of people in here making valid points about manslaughter, neglect, etc. They've all forgotten to throw a little compassion into the mix. These parents screwed up royally, but have a heart.

And you'd think the parents here would know how to do that. My 1 year old slipped through my hands tonight and bonked her head in the tub. She didn't get hurt, not even a bruise so far as I can tell, but I felt awful about it. Try to put yourself in their shoes for a even a moment. And as far as using this as a lesson for any other parents who might let their kids use an ATV, I think the statement "their son is dead" should get the point across without all the juvenile name calling.
 

Pete

Repete
I don't think they need to have legal charges added to their grief. Having a 2 year old on a 50cc ATV was horrible headwork, even if it was 2 up with the mother.

The 6-12 thing is just a guideline to limit liability as well as mishaps. A kid over 10 would be bored stiff on a 50cc ATV once they gained some experience. However while it is a conservative guideline I think what has people outraged is a 2, or almost 3 year old on an ATV, even a 50cc is unfathomable.
 
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FireBrand

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bohman said:
:yay: There's a lot of people in here making valid points about manslaughter, neglect, etc. They've all forgotten to throw a little compassion into the mix. These parents screwed up royally, but have a heart.

And you'd think the parents here would know how to do that. My 1 year old slipped through my hands tonight and bonked her head in the tub. She didn't get hurt, not even a bruise so far as I can tell, but I felt awful about it. Try to put yourself in their shoes for a even a moment. And as far as using this as a lesson for any other parents who might let their kids use an ATV, I think the statement "their son is dead" should get the point across without all the juvenile name calling.

Well stated bohman !:yay:
 

buddy999

It's Great to be American
rack'm said:
It's a damn shame the little man died...........but at least the parents had a helmet on the child and the mother did hit the kill switch, it would be different if he was out there by himself.

The kid may just as well have been out there by himself. The result was the same.

I do agree that since there are child endangerment laws in this country, the parents should be charged. Child Endangerment at the very least.
Involuntary Manslaughter is what I would shoot for if I were the DA. :wench:
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
I honestly don't think they'll be charged, and I don't think it necessary, but there are many things they could be charged with. I can't imagine the pain and suffering the parents must be going through, but I do believe it to be a good thing to be discussing it, and maybe preventing the next one, no matter how out of hand we may get in here.

I tried to put myself in their place, I looked at Nicholas and asked, "What if?" I wouldn't be able to function. Eat or sleep, forget it not going to happen. How long? Who knows.. I can't imagine it would ever not hurt, I'm sure overtime a parent can become a functioning part of society again, but everyday you'd think of your child, and everyday you'd wonder if the person in the restaurant that looked at you knew, and what were they thinking about you.

With or without criminal charges, if they loved their child an 1/8th or even 1/100th of what I love all of mine, their pain and suffering is umimaginable, and something I hope none of us ever has to experience.
 

jetmonkey

New Member
wellhellokitty1 said:
I feel sooo sorry for elaine's 20 year old...could you imagine growing up with such a hateful mother? And we wonder why there's so much tragedy and hate in this world. Seriously, it's her children that I feel sorry for now. But let's picture what we're dealing with here keepinitsimple...

A fat slob of a person who only moves from the bed to the couch to the computer so she can spew her hatred to the rest of the world. Then, when someone with a good heart calls her out on it, she throws back insults and hateful mean remarks and sits back on her lard ass and laughs at how clever she is!!! Oh how great it must be to be her!!! She's the same fat ass who complains that she ordered a "triple cheeseburger" instead of a "double" while out in public and holds up the lines, the same disgusting human being who laughs at funeral processions, the same mess that needs to be cleaned up. I pity her...because no matter how much she claims to be happy...her posts say otherwise and prove that no matter how much you claim it, it's not true. Her heart is ugly and black and I laugh thinking about how one day, it'll be her turn. Next time her "perfect" parenting lets her children go to that party they probably shouldn't or ride with that friend who just got their license, and they get shot or god forbid something worse, she'll realize that her hatefulness has left her virtually alone in this world...and that day, the rest of the world will cheer.
Everyone else quoted this; I was feeling left out.
 

Keepinitsimple

New Member
candicane said:
I agree with you 100% I am glad that someone else feels the same way. No one can ever understand what these parents have to live with forever. It appears that no one cares..

You have a good heart. The family is a mess this will be forever on their hearts.
 

Keepinitsimple

New Member
itsbob said:
I honestly don't think they'll be charged, and I don't think it necessary, but there are many things they could be charged with. I can't imagine the pain and suffering the parents must be going through, but I do believe it to be a good thing to be discussing it, and maybe preventing the next one, no matter how out of hand we may get in here.

I tried to put myself in their place, I looked at Nicholas and asked, "What if?" I wouldn't be able to function. Eat or sleep, forget it not going to happen. How long? Who knows.. I can't imagine it would ever not hurt, I'm sure overtime a parent can become a functioning part of society again, but everyday you'd think of your child, and everyday you'd wonder if the person in the restaurant that looked at you knew, and what were they thinking about you.

With or without criminal charges, if they loved their child an 1/8th or even 1/100th of what I love all of mine, their pain and suffering is umimaginable, and something I hope none of us ever has to experience.

Thank you for taking two minutes to put yourself in their shoes and understand for one second what they are going through. Never touching their child again. People like you are what is great about this area.
 

Keepinitsimple

New Member
BS Gal said:
I have been there. My sister drowned in a pool. My mom could not get her out of the pool. Mom was sick on the couch, pool guys left the gate open, two year old died. Should my mom be blamed? Maybe. She's 75 and still carries the guilt from 45 years ago. She'll never get over it. Sorry she was sick, yes? Pool guys f'd up, yes. If she wasn't sick, my sister wouldn't have drowned. This parent is going through guilt we will never fathom. Cut her a break.
I am sorry for what your family went through I know its always there to haunt you.
 
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