Three More Climbers Stuck On Mt Hood

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17219953/

Official: 3 climbers found on Mount Hood

Wind, snow hampering rescue efforts

GOVERNMENT CAMP, Ore. - Three climbers who fell from a ledge on snowy Mount Hood on Sunday got into their sleeping bags for warmth and awaited rescue, officials said.
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
Why isn't there an enforced law prohibiting rescue efforts for people who deliberatly place themselves in life-threatening situations for recreation.


Someone will find them in the Spring thaw.
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
Kyle said:
Why isn't there an enforced law prohibiting rescue efforts for people who deliberatly place themselves in life-threatening situations for recreation.


Someone will find them in the Spring thaw.

Apparently, these 3 were part of a larger group on the mountain. They fell off of a ledge, who knows how far, and are holed up in sleeping bags, waiting to be rescued.

At least they have survival gear, and GPS locators.

Again though, you have to wonder why authorities don't choose to stop these folks from endangering themselves - at this time of the year - conditions for climbing have to be outrageous.
 

gumby

I AM GUMBY DAMMIT
Penn said:
Apparently, these 3 were part of a larger group on the mountain. They fell off of a ledge, who knows how far, and are holed up in sleeping bags, waiting to be rescued.

At least they have survival gear, and GPS locators.

Again though, you have to wonder why authorities don't choose to stop these folks from endangering themselves - at this time of the year - conditions for climbing have to be outrageous.


I think there should be a mandatory $100,000.00 deposit to be used for their rescue. If they come back, they get it all back. If they don't pay, have them arrested for trespassing.
 
gumby said:
I think there should be a mandatory $100,000.00 deposit to be used for their rescue. If they come back, they get it all back. If they don't pay, have them arrested for trespassing.
Either make the deposit or sign a DNR form. "DO NOT RESCUE".
Or spend only as much looking for me as I have put down as deposit.
 

ylexot

Super Genius
gumby said:
I think there should be a mandatory $100,000.00 deposit to be used for their rescue. If they come back, they get it all back. If they don't pay, have them arrested for trespassing.
Or simply have "rescue insurance". Of course, I doubt any company would insure one of these idiots.
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
gumby said:
I think there should be a mandatory $100,000.00 deposit to be used for their rescue. If they come back, they get it all back. If they don't pay, have them arrested for trespassing.

Considering the fact that there are volunteers - who climb the mountain to rescue those people who have mishaps - an insurance deposit wouldn't be a bad idea, in case the rescuers get hurt.

Who pays for their injuries?
 

Coventry17

New Member
Damn these people for their risky lifestyle of trying to go out and get some exercise! They should sit at home eating twinkies and watching NASCAR like the average Southern Marylander. Who's yer driver?!?
 

Nickel

curiouser and curiouser
Coventry17 said:
Damn these people for their risky lifestyle of trying to go out and get some exercise!
To date, I have never had to be rescued from the treadmill. :peace:
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
Coventry17 said:
Damn these people for their risky lifestyle of trying to go out and get some exercise! They should sit at home eating twinkies and watching NASCAR like the average Southern Marylander. Who's yer driver?!?

You don't read very well, especially for comprehension, do you? Look at this information from the article:

'Extremely treacherous'
"Rescuers reached the general area where the three climbers had found shelter behind rocks earlier Monday, but they decided to wait until daybreak because they couldn’t see anything, Gubele said, and “it’s extremely treacherous up where they are. One false step could be not good.”

"Battling winds up to 70 mph and blowing snow, rescue teams had worked through the night trying to locate the climbers."

Is any part of that narrative not understandable?


PS Ladies; You get one of those treadmills going, where you reach 70 miles an hour, I'd like to see it! :lmao:
 
ylexot said:
Or simply have "rescue insurance". Of course, I doubt any company would insure one of these idiots.
Sure they do, life insurance and health insurance, and they pay the same premiums that us risk taking motorcycle riders pay. :lmao:
 
czygvtwkr said:
People that do stupid crap like that need ##### slapped.
No, I think people should enjoy doing whatever they feel like doing as long as you're not harming someone else. I don't think, however, that we should all pay for plucking them off some mountain or out of some cave. I'd really hate to see any restrictions put on pushing your own personal envelope, whether it be surfing, base jumping, mountain climbing, whatever. The people who rescue them love to do that stuff and should be well reimbursed by the people who used their services. The money could be used to buy better equipment, training and incentives.
 

Penn

Dancing Up A Storm
desertrat said:
No, I think people should enjoy doing whatever they feel like doing as long as you're not harming someone else. I don't think, however, that we should all pay for plucking them off some mountain or out of some cave. I'd really hate to see any restrictions put on pushing your own personal envelope, whether it be surfing, base jumping, mountain climbing, whatever. The people who rescue them love to do that stuff and should be well reimbursed by the people who used their services. The money could be used to buy better equipment, training and incentives.

I, for one like what you're saying here. No one, that I know, finds fault with people that "push the envelope" while adventuring in the wild, climbing a mountain, in this case. The risks are inherent, as well as they should be, if it is going to be an exciting venture.

Why else would anyone do it? It's a rush, I'm sure.

Paying a deposit, or insurance, in the instance you or your party finds itself in trouble, should not be all that unreasonable. Not every person that climbs a mountain is an expert; they may look and dress the part, seem well prepared, etc., but I wonder how many are truely experienced enough?
 

BlackSheep

New Member
Dog May Have Saved Climbers

What sort of bozos take a dog mountain climbing? They should have brought the lab down and left the human idiots up there. I am sure they will now appear on numerous talk shows saying how close to death they were and so on. They someone, equally as stupid, will declare them heroes and role models.

For my money the dog was the smartest one of the bunch. It never would have ventured up on that mountain in the winter. It's bad luck being leashed to these people.
 
BlackSheep said:
What sort of bozos take a dog mountain climbing? They should have brought the lab down and left the human idiots up there. I am sure they will now appear on numerous talk shows saying how close to death they were and so on. They someone, equally as stupid, will declare them heroes and role models.

For my money the dog was the smartest one of the bunch. It never would have ventured up on that mountain in the winter. It's bad luck being leashed to these people.
I doubt if they were actually mountain climbing in the sense most people think of it. They were more likely hiking up the mountain.
As the group started out on Saturday, the weather was clear and Velvet was leading the way, Liston said. "She looked back every once in awhile to make sure we were OK."

They planned to scale the mountain the next morning. But a storm started moving in. On Sunday, they started their descent with high winds and blowing snow making for perilous going.
They played it fairly safe and decided not to go ahead.
 
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