Tipped Workers Want in on $15 Min Wage Deal

David

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Published for Public Consumption. Not an endorsement.

I will however say 2 things regarding this:
  1. That a business does not have to pay a worker minimum wage because they may make up the difference from the generosity of strangers is an absolute farse.
  2. Conversely, it is also an absolute farce that when travelling, or just out for dinner, that you have to tip just about any worker who crosses your path as a part of them doing their normal job. Pay people a fair wage for doing a job and then make them stop pandering from the public in furtherance of them doing what they're already being paid to do. I'm mainly thinking about the large percentage of other people who do their job everyday without soliciting donations from their company's customers.

Tipped Workers from Across Maryland Call for Inclusion in Senate Version of Minimum Wage Bill

Workers, advocates urge Senate to eliminate sub-minimum wage for tipped workers​

Annapolis, MD - At a press conference today, tipped workers and advocates urged the Maryland Senate to include tipped workers who currently earn a sub-minimum wage in the $15 minimum wage bill pending before the Senate Finance Committee. Describing personal hardships of working in service industries where wage theft and harassment are prevalent, the workers spoke of the basic unfairness of legislators leaving behind thousands of workers who earn just $3.63 per hour.

"While we're pleased that we've passed the $15 bill in the House of Delegates, that version still cuts out too many workers who also need a raise," said Ricarra Jones of 1199SEIU United Healthcare Workers East and a leader of the Fight for $15 coalition. "Of all workers who earn the minimum wage, tipped workers are most likely to be living in poverty and relying on social services to survive. Carving categories of workers out of a raise is unjust, cruel, and contrary to the core goal of creating better wages and fairer workplaces."

Last week, the Maryland House of Delegates passed an amended bill (HB 166) to gradually raise the state minimum wage from the current rate of $10.10 per hour to $15 by 2025. The bill (SB 280) has been heard by the Senate Finance Committee and is awaiting a vote there before moving to the full Senate for consideration. Maryland tipped workers earned half of the minimum wage until the passage of the 2014 bill that raised the state's basement wage from $7.25 to the current $10.10. Intense lobbying by the Maryland Restaurant Association resulted in tipped workers not only being left out of the bill, but having their wages permanently frozen at $3.63 per hour.

"It is incredibly difficult for tipped staff to bother employers for compensation when we don't make tips. We look like ungrateful and difficult employees who are not team-players, and in most businesses the record-keeping for hourly and tipped income is unreliable," said Drew Koshgarian, a member of the Restaurant Opportunities Centers United. "It is deeply unrealistic to ask employees to jeopardize our relationships with our employers by pursuing our daily compensation when we are not tipped. Raising the minimum wage to $15 for tipped employees would protect us in the most basic way from a wildly unreliable and illogical model for compensating our time and hard work."

Employers are supposed to ensure that tipped workers make the full state (or local prevailing) minimum wage but many do not and wage theft (or nonpayment) is rife in the service industries. According to the US Department of Labor's Wage and Hour Division, almost "84 percent of full-service restaurants it investigated between 2010 and 2012 had violated labor standards." And workers who request their full legal salary can find themselves getting fewer and less profitable shifts, or left off work schedules altogether.

"In the state of Maryland, there are almost 90,000 tipped restaurant workers with a median wage of $9.46, including tips," said Diana Ramirez, Policy Advocate for the Restaurant Opportunities Centers United. "Today, 65 percent of tipped workers in Maryland are women, and half of them are single mothers. They suffer from almost three times the poverty rate of the rest of the Maryland workforce and use food stamps at almost two times the rate of other Maryland workers. Worst off all, the restaurant industry has the highest rates of sexual harassment of any industry because it forces a mostly female workforce to tolerate inappropriate customer behavior to feed their families in tips."

Other amendments made in the House version of the bill include extending the phase-in to 2025, taking out a provision to index the basement wage to the Consumer Price Index so that it doesn't lose value over time, carving out agricultural workers, and giving Maryland's Board of Public Works -- now controlled by Governor Larry Hogan and Comptroller Peter Franchot -- a so-called off-ramp, a one-time opportunity to stop or delay the scheduled wage increases for one year. Each of these amendments weakens the bill, lessening the value of the raise. Advocates will continue to encourage senators to support a "Clean $15" bill without these amendments or any other changes to the original measure.

"In the 2018 elections, legislators campaigned on passing a $15 minimum wage. People didn't vote for them to pass a gutted version of the bill," said Larry Stafford, executive director of Progressive Maryland. "Legislators need to listen to their constituents, not the National Federation of Independent Business, the Maryland Restaurant Association, the Chamber of Commerce, and other big business lobbyists."

California, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, and Illinois have all adopted plans to reach $15 without creating new exemptions for any group of workers or preempting local wages. Workers in Massachusetts, New Jersey, and California will earn $15 before 2024. A majority of New Yorkers will be eligible for $15 by 2021.

More testimony from tipped workers:

"In my profession, I interact with many types of guests from all over the country and all over the world," said Debbie Wright, a bartender at the Hyatt Regency in Baltimore. "I am always uncertain as to whether or not they are going to leave a decent tip or even tip at all. In many cases, I have to rely on my hourly wage to be able to make ends meet while caring for my elderly uncle and my four school-age children. In my industry, no one is required to leave a tip. I find it appalling that the minimum wage for tipped employees has been frozen since 2009!"

"Most customers don't know that their server is sharing the tip with the busser, the hostess, the bartender, and in some cases the kitchen staff," said Justin Holiday, a server at Dempsey's Brew Pub & Restaurant at Camden Yards in Baltimore. "We have to pay taxes on the tips, we have to pay the legally required state and federal deductions. A lot of servers have a 'zero' sum paycheck or even owe money on payday. Tipped workers need a raise too. It would be good for our local economy if tipped workers got a higher hourly wage. We will go out and spend the money at local businesses."

"It's frustrating to have an income that is dependent on outside factors such as holidays and the weather; it's an unreliable source of income," said Alexa Johnson, a server at a family-owned Baltimore restaurant. "At my restaurant, the servers pool our tips. We are then responsible for state and federal taxes. I don't have enough money from my hourly pay to cover the taxes. My co-workers and I all end up in a bad tax situation. I'm still trying to pay what I owe for 2017 taxes. I support myself while going to school. I need to work. Tipped workers should not be excluded from having a reliable income"

"If I got paid more, I'd pay off my bills and buy some things that my baby needs," said Audrey Broden, a beverage server at the Horseshoe Casino in Baltimore. "I have a four-month old daughter. I wish I could have taken more time off work after she was born but I couldn't afford it. In addition to my server job, I'm on staff at Powell Recovery Home. A lot of my friends are servers too. We have to use public assistance because we don't earn enough to take care of ourselves and our families."

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Maryland Fight for $15 coalition members include representatives from more than 200 faith, labor and community organizations and small businesses all working to make life better for workers and their families. Participating organizations include 1199SEIU, American Federation of State County and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), Businesses for a Fair Minimum Wage, CASA, Job Opportunities Task Force (JOTF), Jews United for Justice, Maryland State Education Association (MSEA), Maryland Working Families, National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), Progressive Maryland, Public Justice Center, United Food Commercial Workers (UFCW), Women's Law Center of Maryland, and many others.
 

frequentflier

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Just my $.02.
Tipped workers should make $5.05 (half of min wage) and not the frozen wage. That $hit needs to go away.
I am a generous tipper when treated well and tip with cash. Never have I "stiffed" someone because of lousy service though they could have gotten more if their service had rendered it.
Serving food and/or alcohol to people is one of the hardest jobs out there. Working retail is a challenge but add hunger and booze and ungrateful people that look down their nose at servers... folks that make their living doing this have my respect. And pity!
 

kom526

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Here’s some insult to injury, I read recently that some restaurants have added a 14% service charge to help cover the wages of all employees.
 

vraiblonde

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"If I got paid more, I'd pay off my bills and buy some things that my baby needs," said Audrey Broden, a beverage server at the Horseshoe Casino in Baltimore.

This woman is cocktail waitress at a Baltimore casino and she's not making good money? She must really suck at it and should probably explore other career opportunities.

No server worth a crap would want to make only $15/hr. I made more than that at Bambino's back in the mid-80s, and when I subbed at various Solomons restaurants I made WAY more than that. And I guarantee you that $15/hr is ALL they'll make because the cost of the meal will have to go up in order to cover it, plus I believe most people will stop tipping. And when restaurants add a mandatory tip, people get pissed and stop going there.

Restaurants operate on a razor thin margin and can't afford to just eat (ha) the extra payroll. Raising the minimum wage to $15 is a stupid idea and it's even stupider to raise it to that for tipped employees because it's not going to go like they think.
 

Yooper

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My $15.

What the $15 living wage argument doesn't seem to explain is how all jobs equate to a $15/hr wage point.

To me this just encourages inflation. If "Job A" gets $15 per hr and is demonstrably less difficult than "Job B" wouldn't the Job B'ers have reason to want, say, $30 per hour? And then the cycle continues as $30/hr becomes the new "living wage."

The market should decide. This "living wage" BS is just another in a series of intrusions by the government that do nothing more than screw things up.

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LightRoasted

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If I may ...

WTF!!!
Debbie Wright, a bartender at the Hyatt Regency in Baltimore. "I am always uncertain as to whether or not they are going to leave a decent tip or even tip at all. In many cases, I have to rely on my hourly wage to be able to make ends meet while caring for my elderly uncle and my four school-age children.
She needs a different job.
My $15. What the $15 living wage argument doesn't seem to explain is how all jobs equate to a $15/hr wage point. To me this just encourages inflation. If "Job A" gets $15 per hr and is demonstrably less difficult than "Job B" wouldn't the Job B'ers have reason to want, say, $30 per hour? And then the cycle continues as $30/hr becomes the new "living wage." The market should decide. This "living wage" BS is just another in a series of intrusions by the government that do nothing more than screw things up.
The need for an increase in the minimum wage is a direct result of inflation. The expansion of the money supply. The cycle will never end unless and until our fiat money system is ended. This is the means, used by governments, to force industry to pay their lowest paid people more, while ignoring the real underlying cause; The Federal Reserve System.
 

GURPS

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Yeah NO.

I am not tipping someone making $ 15 bucks an hour ... also I expect a coriosponding drop in the quality of service
 

Auntie Biache'

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Anyone tipped server who is on-board with this $15 wage increase already sucks at his or her job. Otherwise, they'd know that they'd be losing money.
 

vraiblonde

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She needs a different job.

See, and for someone in that situation, waiting tables and tending bar is where you're going to make the most money for your time. Good servers will make more than anyone working retail or an entry level desk job. I personally know servers who are pulling down $50k.

Service/hospitality is a skill, true, but it's also easily learned. Bring your good attitude and friendly personality, and voila! Money. I get the sense that the servers in the press release aren't top notch - or even middle notch - and want to get paid without any effort on their part.
 

Gilligan

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If the employees receive all their compensation from the restaurant business directly, the cost of the meals served will absolutely have to increase...often by quite a bit. The total cost (meal plus tip compared to new meal cost with expensive employees) might remain more or less the same, but the option or rewarding or acknowledging good service and refusing to tip for bad service will be completely gone.
 

Gilligan

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Anyone tipped server who is on-board with this $15 wage increase already sucks at his or her job. Otherwise, they'd know that they'd be losing money.

That. My younger daughter only worked 2-3 nights at week as a bar server in an upscale DC bar while she was attending U of M. She made a couple hundred every night.
 

LightRoasted

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If I may ...

See, and for someone in that situation, waiting tables and tending bar is where you're going to make the most money for your time. Good servers will make more than anyone working retail or an entry level desk job. I personally know servers who are pulling down $50k.

Service/hospitality is a skill, true, but it's also easily learned. Bring your good attitude and friendly personality, and voila! Money. I get the sense that the servers in the press release aren't top notch - or even middle notch - and want to get paid without any effort on their part.

Wholeheartedly agree. Have a business opportunity idea for you. Start a service/hospitality training center for those wanting to be in the hospitality service industry. After they graduate, they'd be given hiring preference over that of non-trained individuals. In addition, employers would seek them out due to being properly trained which would also enhance their business. Not referring to manager type training, which already exists in collages and universities. Only for servers, waiters, tenders, etc. The tipped employee.

And another idea, to circumvent the, "tip sharing", "tipping pooling", fiasco. Since the cooks and dish washers appear to be sharing in tips. Which really sucks. Because, how many times has a steak come out incorrectly cooked? Or broccoli not steamed crisp and green? Or the utensils are spotted? Etc. They certainly do not deserve any tip. So, the plan, since the wait staff is personally waiting on the diner, pay by credit card, gift card, a card. When the receipt is presented, put $1 or $2 as the tip only. The remainder, say a $10, if warranted, is personally handed to the wait staff for their service to you. They pocket the cash. The $1 or $2 is counted as the official countable tip to be shared. And bartenders, really? If I'm not sitting at a bar, they get nothing. And shouldn't get anything especially if I don't order any beer, wine, or liquored drink.
 

Toxick

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My crazy whacked out idea:

Pay people what they're worth, and do away with this tipping nonsense.




Also, include sales tax in the ****ing price so I don't have to mentally add another 6% as I'm tallying the price in my head.


For that matter, get rid of all stupid contrived practices that serve no purpose.
 

vraiblonde

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And another idea, to circumvent the, "tip sharing", "tipping pooling", fiasco. Since the cooks and dish washers appear to be sharing in tips. Which really sucks. Because, how many times has a steak come out incorrectly cooked? Or broccoli not steamed crisp and green? Or the utensils are spotted? Etc. They certainly do not deserve any tip. So, the plan, since the wait staff is personally waiting on the diner, pay by credit card, gift card, a card. When the receipt is presented, put $1 or $2 as the tip only. The remainder, say a $10, if warranted, is personally handed to the wait staff for their service to you. They pocket the cash. The $1 or $2 is counted as the official countable tip to be shared. And bartenders, really? If I'm not sitting at a bar, they get nothing. And shouldn't get anything especially if I don't order any beer, wine, or liquored drink.

When Lenny's had Sunday brunch we servers used to cut the busboys in, and occasionally the bartender if there were a crap ton of Bloody Marys going on or she pitched in to take around coffee and water. We considered that "support staff" - people who bust ass and help the servers do a better job, turn over tables, and get bigger tips. We didn't have to do this; we did it to reward good service (just like the customers tipped us). And after taking care of the support and sliding the cooks a few bucks, I'd still walk out of there with $100-150 on a 5 hour shift.

The reason servers don't like to pool tips is because there's always that one who sucks and spends their shift in the bathroom or out smoking while you're servicing their tables. We had a great team at Bambino's and voluntarily pooled tips on Friday and Saturday nights.
 

Auntie Biache'

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When Lenny's had Sunday brunch we servers used to cut the busboys in, and occasionally the bartender if there were a crap ton of Bloody Marys going on or she pitched in to take around coffee and water. We considered that "support staff" - people who bust ass and help the servers do a better job, turn over tables, and get bigger tips. We didn't have to do this; we did it to reward good service (just like the customers tipped us). And after taking care of the support and sliding the cooks a few bucks, I'd still walk out of there with $100-150 on a 5 hour shift.

The reason servers don't like to pool tips is because there's always that one who sucks and spends their shift in the bathroom or out smoking while you're servicing their tables. We had a great team at Bambino's and voluntarily pooled tips on Friday and Saturday nights.

People today have no idea how to separate diners from their money. Growing up in a tourist town, well, it's a gift. You either have it, or you find another job.
 

Tech

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It's embarrassing to be married to a waitress, did you ever have to take a thousand $1 to the bank? Honest, my wife is a waitress! 😳
 

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It's embarrassing to be married to a waitress, did you ever have to take a thousand $1 to the bank? Honest, my wife is a waitress! 😳


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