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[GregV814]

Cleopatra married two of her brothers...
Did you know "B.C." (in years) has been replaced with B.C.E. as to not offend some. Yeah, BCE means "before current era"...
Some (mysterious identity, woooooooo....) bought an entire former mining town in California's valley for 22 million. Eagle Mountain. Hmmmmmm.... Gates, XiPing....hmmmmm
Joe B. signed agreements giving America's fresh water rights to other Countries....
In the ancient city of Sparta, 400 BCE had 25,000 citizen and 500, 000 slaves.... (how do Greeks say REPARATIONS?)
In ancient Greece, women counted their age only after they married.

 

[SamSpade]

Did you know "B.C." (in years) has been replaced with B.C.E. as to not offend some. Yeah, BCE means "before current era"...

There's also a bit of the confusion when trying to MORE PRECISELY find the year of Jesus' birth.
There's of course, understandable concern about the approximate DATE of Jesus' birth, because the data revealed in the Bible would lead people to believe he was born EARLIER than December 25. To make the matter quick - Elizabeth is said to have conceived during his husband's time as priest, which would have been late May or early June and she didn't hear about Mary until she was in her sixth month - December. Assuming that Mary had a pregnancy of nine months, that puts it at around September, which is consistent with shepherds still being in the fields (as they would NOT be, come wintertime).

There's still the problem of the story of Herod the Great - who died in 4 B.C. - but others place it as late as 1 BCE or 2 CE. It makes the slaughter of the innocents hard to place, in the Bible, especially since the story has Herod commanding the death of all boys under two years of age - suggesting that Jesus would have been 1 or 2 years old when he commanded it.

So - if we find out that Jesus was born BEFORE 0 BC - do we re-date everything? There's no conclusive answer and the best way is to just take the current usage of BCE and AD as they are.

 

[DaSDGuy]

There's also a bit of the confusion when trying to MORE PRECISELY find the year of Jesus' birth.
There's of course, understandable concern about the approximate DATE of Jesus' birth, because the data revealed in the Bible would lead people to believe he was born EARLIER than December 25. To make the matter quick - Elizabeth is said to have conceived during his husband's time as priest, which would have been late May or early June and she didn't hear about Mary until she was in her sixth month - December. Assuming that Mary had a pregnancy of nine months, that puts it at around September, which is consistent with shepherds still being in the fields (as they would NOT be, come wintertime).

There's still the problem of the story of Herod the Great - who died in 4 B.C. - but others place it as late as 1 BCE or 2 CE. It makes the slaughter of the innocents hard to place, in the Bible, especially since the story has Herod commanding the death of all boys under two years of age - suggesting that Jesus would have been 1 or 2 years old when he commanded it.

So - if we find out that Jesus was born BEFORE 0 BC - do we re-date everything? There's no conclusive answer and the best way is to just take the current usage of BCE and AD as they are.

Didn't they find his Hawaiian birth certificate?

 

[stgislander]

There's also a bit of the confusion when trying to MORE PRECISELY find the year of Jesus' birth.
There's of course, understandable concern about the approximate DATE of Jesus' birth, because the data revealed in the Bible would lead people to believe he was born EARLIER than December 25. To make the matter quick - Elizabeth is said to have conceived during his husband's time as priest, which would have been late May or early June and she didn't hear about Mary until she was in her sixth month - December. Assuming that Mary had a pregnancy of nine months, that puts it at around September, which is consistent with shepherds still being in the fields (as they would NOT be, come wintertime).

There's still the problem of the story of Herod the Great - who died in 4 B.C. - but others place it as late as 1 BCE or 2 CE. It makes the slaughter of the innocents hard to place, in the Bible, especially since the story has Herod commanding the death of all boys under two years of age - suggesting that Jesus would have been 1 or 2 years old when he commanded it.

So - if we find out that Jesus was born BEFORE 0 BC - do we re-date everything? There's no conclusive answer and the best way is to just take the current usage of BCE and AD as they are.

Plus if I understand some of the studies, so far there has not been any evidence for the slaughter of the innocents found in the archeological record. It is only mentioned in the Bible.

I mean nobody would be surprised if it did actually happen. Herod killed some of his own kids for Pete's sake.

 

[SamSpade]

Plus if understand some of the studies, so far there has not been any evidence for the slaughter of the innocents found in the archeological record. It is only mentioned in the Bible.

I mean nobody would be surprised if it did actually happen. Herod killed some of his own kids for Pete's sake.

The population of Bethlehem at the time of Christ was likely to have been no more than 500.
Taking that as a base, it's not likely there were more than a dozen or two boys two years of age and under, in a town of that size.

Such an event in the life of Herod would easily go under the radar, and archaeological evidence for it would likely be zero or close to it.