Traffic Accident at Mattapany and Rt 235 "again"!

3CATSAILOR

Well-Known Member
Why doesn't people see cars coming? Why not look both ways and continue looking as you continue with the action of turning on to a travel portion of the road? Why doesn't the Southbound vehicle use defensive driving to try to avoid the accident? Or, did he have no time at all to avoid the accident? If true, the Southbound vehicle would have been so close at that point, it should have been seen? Is their something at this intersection that "blocks the clear view" of people turning on to 235? Is there a glare from the back a sign, with shiny aluminum blinding a person? And if blinded, why turn on to the road if you can't see? Or, was there another type of sight obstruction at 6:31am? The Sun came up around 6:49 am yesterday. LED headlights that EVERYONE knows are blinding and a person still could not see an oncoming vehicle? Too many questions with not enough answers.

The title of the Baynet article said "High Speed Collision". Perhaps the Southbound vehicle was high speed. The NAS Police Vehicle was said to be turning left on to North 235 from what is said to be a full stop. Based on from what is said in the article, it does not appear the NAS Police Vehicle yielded the right of way to the South bouind traffic. No word of any ticket issued to either party involved.


LEXINGTON PARK, Md. – On February 22, at approximately 6:31 a.m., police, fire and rescue personnel responded to a serious motor vehicle accident on Three Notch Road in the area of Mattapany Road.


NAS Patuxent River PIO released the following: “Initial reports are that the NAS Pax River Police SUV, traveling back to Pax River from Webster Outlying Field, was making a left turn after a full stop from Mattapany onto Three Notch Road’s northbound lane when it was struck by an oncoming vehicle.


Both Police officers in the SUV and the civilian in the other vehicle were evacuated with minor injuries. This is an unfortunate incident, but we are thankful there were no major injuries as a result.

St. Mary’s Sherrif’s Dept. is performing the accident investigation; their PIO can be reached at 301-475-4200 x1986/1955.”
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Wow, just wow. Your rambling paragraph hurt to read.
Your characterization of that as a paragraph has offended paragraphs everywhere.

But anyway. I can't see how the left turning police car takes what looks to be a head on collision unless it had already made the turn and the other vehicle hit it head on.

But how did the other car then travel 200 or so feet southbound after hitting the cop car head on. Anyone want to explain that?
 

Loper

Animal Poor!
Wow, just wow. Your rambling paragraph hurt to read.
No kidding! I have only had 2 people on ignore for this very reason, Gregv something or another and Kinnetkeet or something. Both of them make my brain hurt trying to decipher what the hell they are trying to say. I think this one is next. uggg
 

3CATSAILOR

Well-Known Member
Your characterization of that as a paragraph has offended paragraphs everywhere.

But anyway. I can't see how the left turning police car takes what looks to be a head on collision unless it had already made the turn and the other vehicle hit it head on.

But how did the other car then travel 200 or so feet southbound after hitting the cop car head on. Anyone want to explain that?
Good point. I thought the same thing. The cop car did look like a head on. The other car traveling 200 feet had to be going more than the seed limit. But, you never hear the end story of what really happened on accidents such as these.
 

eric14

Member
Why doesn't people see cars coming? Why not look both ways and continue looking as you continue with the action of turning on to a travel portion of the road?
Is there a proper term for when something turns onto a road and another car is coming close? This happens to me all the time and it's not just dangerous but extremely frustrating.

That and the ones who barely even stop at a stop sign.
 

3CATSAILOR

Well-Known Member
Every situation is di
Is there a proper term for when something turns onto a road and another car is coming close? This happens to me all the time and it's not just dangerous but extremely frustrating.

That and the ones who barely even stop at a stop sign

Every situation is different. This is because most traffic scenerios are different. Vehicles must yield the right of way to you on the assumption you do have the right of way. There is negligent driving. To be charged for this, the offender needs to meet the definition off the offense. Reckless driving is a higher standard to prove and therefore is usually not charged by the police officer, "unless" the offense is so egregious

In Mechanicsville, a horse and buggy I was behind ran a red light late at night and failed to yield the right of way to on coming traffic; although the traffic was not real close at the time. At the very least it is Traffic Control Device violation. Depending upon the judgement of the officer, a Failure to Yield the Right of Way may be an additional charge. But, these folks do not have a "driver's license" in the first place. However, they may have an Identification Card. I am not sure. They use the same road. But, so does folks that are on bikes. As far as I know, I don't believe either one is required to have an ID with them. To my knowledge, the Motor Vehicle Law does not include bikes or Horse and Buggies. I am surprised since this would be one more way Maryland can squeeze money out of people. Of course it would be termed in the interest of Public Safety. I suspect it will be a required eventually for bikes. Probably not the Amish.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

Every situation is different. This is because most traffic scenerios are different. Vehicles must yield the right of way to you on the assumption you do have the right of way. There is negligent driving. To be charged for this, the offender needs to meet the definition off the offense. Reckless driving is a higher standard to prove and therefore is usually not charged by the police officer, "unless" the offense is so egregious

In Mechanicsville, a horse and buggy I was behind ran a red light late at night and failed to yield the right of way to on coming traffic; although the traffic was not real close at the time. At the very least it is Traffic Control Device violation. Depending upon the judgement of the officer, a Failure to Yield the Right of Way may be an additional charge. But, these folks do not have a "driver's license" in the first place. However, they may have an Identification Card. I am not sure. They use the same road. But, so does folks that are on bikes. As far as I know, I don't believe either one is required to have an ID with them. To my knowledge, the Motor Vehicle Law does not include bikes or Horse and Buggies. I am surprised since this would be one more way Maryland can squeeze money out of people. Of course it would be termed in the interest of Public Safety. I suspect it will be a required eventually for bikes. Probably not the Amish.

Pretty sure the Amish are considered pedestrians in these cases.
 

eric14

Member
Every situation is di


Every situation is different. This is because most traffic scenerios are different. Vehicles must yield the right of way to you on the assumption you do have the right of way. There is negligent driving. To be charged for this, the offender needs to meet the definition off the offense. Reckless driving is a higher standard to prove and therefore is usually not charged by the police officer, "unless" the offense is so egregious

In Mechanicsville, a horse and buggy I was behind ran a red light late at night and failed to yield the right of way to on coming traffic; although the traffic was not real close at the time. At the very least it is Traffic Control Device violation. Depending upon the judgement of the officer, a Failure to Yield the Right of Way may be an additional charge. But, these folks do not have a "driver's license" in the first place. However, they may have an Identification Card. I am not sure. They use the same road. But, so does folks that are on bikes. As far as I know, I don't believe either one is required to have an ID with them. To my knowledge, the Motor Vehicle Law does not include bikes or Horse and Buggies. I am surprised since this would be one more way Maryland can squeeze money out of people. Of course it would be termed in the interest of Public Safety. I suspect it will be a required eventually for bikes. Probably not the Amish.
I've seen bikers (not motorcyclists) running red lights. I'm pretty sure that's against the law.
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
Is there a proper term for when something turns onto a road and another car is coming close? This happens to me all the time and it's not just dangerous but extremely frustrating.

That and the ones who barely even stop at a stop sign. or stop light
I watched a sting of vehicles do rolling, not even pretend to stop, right turns on the red. The first guy in line stopped and was waiting for pedestrians to cross, the guy behind couldn't wait, so they honked. Honky was the first of the lot that didn't even tap the brakes before making the turn. To hell with the cross traffic or the vehicles with the left turn arrow. Right hand turn on red baby. It means about the same things as the yellow YIELD signs, RIGHT TURN ONLY, and pretty much every other sign. People do what they want and then get angry if there is an accident or a close call.
 

RoseRed

American Beauty
PREMO Member
I came *thisclose* to being involved in an accident today. Heading NB on 235 and approaching the Mervell Dean/Outback intersection doing approximately 50mph. Good thing I don't tailgate. The woman in front of me literally waited until the last second to get into the turn lane (red light) and slammed on her brakes to fit into that lane. As I was slamming on my brakes, the automatic brake also engaged. Horns behind me started going off. What an effing retard she was!!!
 

limblips

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
I came *thisclose* to being involved in an accident today. Heading NB on 235 and approaching the Mervell Dean/Outback intersection doing approximately 50mph. Good thing I don't tailgate. The woman in front of me literally waited until the last second to get into the turn lane (red light) and slammed on her brakes to fit into that lane. As I was slamming on my brakes, the automatic brake also engaged. Horns behind me started going off. What an effing retard she was!!!
I would appreciate it if you would use my chosen pronouns. You transphobes need reprogramming.
 

RoseRed

American Beauty
PREMO Member
Just a sarcastic remark pointing at wokists who jump on everything as being ___________ (insert favorite butthurt complaint). I didn't think I needed the sarcasm emoji, sorry.
It's hard to tell sometimes. 👍
 

TPD

the poor dad
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