Training Collars

Compa

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Does anyone have an idea where I might find a used training collar? I have a 9 month old lab who is starting to have some behavioral issues and doesn't listen when I tell him to come. He recently got away from me at the dog beach and jumped on several people before someone was able to grab him for me. Or what are some good ones that don't cost a lot? Ideally I can find a used one because I don't anticipate using very long and therefore don't want to spend lots of money for something I won't use much.

Also I would like your experiences with using training collars. I don't want to have to use one. But he doesn't listen and barks while at me while I am eating or just watching TV. Also has some bad habits at the dog park I would like to stop.
 
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muttdog

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Does anyone have an idea where I might find a used training collar? I have a 9 month old lab who is starting to have some behavioral issues and doesn't listen when I tell him to come. He recently got away from me at the dog beach and jumped on several people before someone was able to grab him for me. Or what are some good ones that don't cost a lot? Ideally I can find a used one because I don't anticipate using very long and therefore don't want to spend lots of money for something I won't use much.

Never used a training collar. A good trainer can help you break you pet of that. I have used Kathy at waldorf pet smart, she was wonderful with my dogs and I still stop by and ask her for advice once in awhile.
 

TurboK9

New Member
Does anyone have an idea where I might find a used training collar? I have a 9 month old lab who is starting to have some behavioral issues and doesn't listen when I tell him to come. He recently got away from me at the dog beach and jumped on several people before someone was able to grab him for me. Or what are some good ones that don't cost a lot? Ideally I can find a used one because I don't anticipate using very long and therefore don't want to spend lots of money for something I won't use much.

Although I'm an avid fan of training collars for certain purposes like proofing certain 'distance' exercises, I must say there are better ways of traning a dog not to jump. Particularly with ecollars, timing and proper use are essential or the dog can easily be negatively impacted by the experience.

First thing I would do in your case, is to train a recall command. He won't be jumping on people if he gets away from you again if you can just say "come" and he returns to your side....

As far as the jumping, one of the best ways to do this is to get some freinds to help you, and at home or in your yard, have them approach and if he jumps and acts all nuts, you command him to sit. They can protect themselves while he is jumping by putting a knee up (don't 'knee' the dog, just raise the knee and if he jumps into it well oops on him). Once he settles and sits on command, the pet and you praise. Of course, this only works if he knows 'sit' and responds reliably.

Keep your patience, 5 seconds of anger can destroy 10 years of training. If you start working on this on your own or even with a trainer, if you get frustrated put the dog up and cool of before continuing. Training a dog to the point of reliability is a lot of work, particularly if you want the dog to retain his trust of you, and not respond out of fear.

If you work on the recall, never reprimand the dog if he comes back on his own... returning is always good even if it takes a while. He needs to understand before a correction or reprimand can be effective, otherwise it's confusing (IE if I was screaming and threatening would you come to me?). Bait him to come back, whether with toy, food, run from him, etc when he comes, praise and reward. Once he understands you'll know it.

Anyway, I know that was a lot of scattered thoughts but I hope something helped, LOL.

If you get to the point where you want to use a remote collar, I'd suggest Unleashed Technologies (uses intense vibration, more of an attention getter than a correction), or I use a Sport Dog 1800, that's probably overkill for you but I've had the same one for 6 years and love it. Just remember, if you use an ecollar, the dog should not vocalize in pain... use the minimum setting you need to get a response. My dogs, the only way to tell I've made a correction is they twitch an ear. Just make sure you have someone who knows what they are doing help you so you don't break your dogs trust, which you can easily do if you use them wrong...
 
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getbent

Thats how them b*tch's R
When we first got our Lab he would chase the girls around the yard and knock them down. I put him on a leash, and played in the yard with the kids. Whenever he would try to jump, I'd jerk the leash downward and tell him no! then tell him sit. And of course praise for the good behavior. It didn't take too long before he got the idea.

I hate dogs that jump on people and I dislike the owners that allow it even more. Maybe with the come command you could find a really long leash/rope to hook to his collar and that way he could wander away slightly while working on this command.
 

getbent

Thats how them b*tch's R
"Shock collars" reminds me of a funny story. We have one and did use it on our Lab. We had a cookout and he was mingling in the yard and had the collar on. My daughter who was about 3 at the time, got a hold of the remote and shocked the dog. My husband immediately took it from her. He put the the remote in his pocket and went about his business. About half an hour or so later he was on the deck and the dog came haulin' azz around the back of the deck trying to bite himself. My husband jumped up and looked over the side to see what was wrong. The dog immediately took shelter under a bush and was noticeably freaked out. Took my hubby a minute but he then realized he had sat down on the remote and pressed the button. Poor dog was probably minding his own business or taking a leak and got the shock of his life, :killingme. We still laugh about this to this day :lol:
 

PrepH4U

New Member
"Shock collars" reminds me of a funny story. We have one and did use it on our Lab. We had a cookout and he was mingling in the yard and had the collar on. My daughter who was about 3 at the time, got a hold of the remote and shocked the dog. My husband immediately took it from her. He put the the remote in his pocket and went about his business. About half an hour or so later he was on the deck and the dog came haulin' azz around the back of the deck trying to bite himself. My husband jumped up and looked over the side to see what was wrong. The dog immediately took shelter under a bush and was noticeably freaked out. Took my hubby a minute but he then realized he had sat down on the remote and pressed the button. Poor dog was probably minding his own business or taking a leak and got the shock of his life, :killingme. We still laugh about this to this day :lol:

I am sorry but I don't think that is funny at all, kinda sad really.
 

getbent

Thats how them b*tch's R
It's not like it was on purpose or we didn't feel bad when it happened. The dog survived. You can't say that something that might have hurt at the time has never happened to you or someone you know and then after the fact found it funny.
 

Loper

Animal Poor!
"Shock collars" reminds me of a funny story. We have one and did use it on our Lab. We had a cookout and he was mingling in the yard and had the collar on. My daughter who was about 3 at the time, got a hold of the remote and shocked the dog. My husband immediately took it from her. He put the the remote in his pocket and went about his business. About half an hour or so later he was on the deck and the dog came haulin' azz around the back of the deck trying to bite himself. My husband jumped up and looked over the side to see what was wrong. The dog immediately took shelter under a bush and was noticeably freaked out. Took my hubby a minute but he then realized he had sat down on the remote and pressed the button. Poor dog was probably minding his own business or taking a leak and got the shock of his life, :killingme. We still laugh about this to this day :lol:

You think that is funny? That's effin sick! Can I put a shock collar on you and be negligent with it? Please!!!! You are now getting ready to have puppies.. wonderful! :cds:
 
Does anyone have an idea where I might find a used training collar? I have a 9 month old lab who is starting to have some behavioral issues and doesn't listen when I tell him to come. He recently got away from me at the dog beach and jumped on several people before someone was able to grab him for me. Or what are some good ones that don't cost a lot? Ideally I can find a used one because I don't anticipate using very long and therefore don't want to spend lots of money for something I won't use much.

Also I would like your experiences with using training collars. I don't want to have to use one. But he doesn't listen and barks while at me while I am eating or just watching TV. Also has some bad habits at the dog park I would like to stop.
:howdy:

I have one in the basement I no longer have a use for (no dogs anymore).
 

getbent

Thats how them b*tch's R
It was a freaking accident people. Like I said in my other post, you act like nothing has ever happened that turned out to be funny. We didn't laught while it was happening. We were very concerned about the dog once we realized what happened. Bring your shock collar on if you think you're man enough to beat up on a woman. :)
 

Crashpupty

havoc is havoc
"Shock collars" reminds me of a funny story. We have one and did use it on our Lab. We had a cookout and he was mingling in the yard and had the collar on. My daughter who was about 3 at the time, got a hold of the remote and shocked the dog. My husband immediately took it from her. He put the the remote in his pocket and went about his business. About half an hour or so later he was on the deck and the dog came haulin' azz around the back of the deck trying to bite himself. My husband jumped up and looked over the side to see what was wrong. The dog immediately took shelter under a bush and was noticeably freaked out. Took my hubby a minute but he then realized he had sat down on the remote and pressed the button. Poor dog was probably minding his own business or taking a leak and got the shock of his life, :killingme. We still laugh about this to this day :lol:

Shock collars are no substitute for good training, I for one hate them. To laugh about the tortue of an animal, on purpose or by accident is completly insane to me. I find no humor in this at all, only a reason shock collars should be strapped to the owners and tested before they can buy them. See how funny that is, and take videos so we can all see because you being shocked is way funnier than the amusement you got from shocking the dog. You fail as an owner, invest the time to train your dog and don't resort to the cheap training aids like shock collars and then post something like you did.
 

getbent

Thats how them b*tch's R
We did train our dog. I guess using an invisible fence is inhumane as well? Or should I just let my dogs run the neighborhood? We used it almost 5 years ago. Sitting in a box in the garage now.
 

Loper

Animal Poor!
It was a freaking accident people. Like I said in my other post, you act like nothing has ever happened that turned out to be funny. We didn't laught while it was happening. We were very concerned about the dog once we realized what happened. Bring your shock collar on if you think you're man enough to beat up on a woman. :)

I'm guessing you were answering my post? :howdy: Accident or not, I still do not find it funny! BTW I am a woman.

And nothing in your first post, about it being funny, stated that you were worried or concerned about the dog when it happened. Glad you were worried about the dog when it happened. :yay:
 

BS Gal

Voted Nicest in 08
It was a freaking accident people. Like I said in my other post, you act like nothing has ever happened that turned out to be funny. We didn't laught while it was happening. We were very concerned about the dog once we realized what happened. Bring your shock collar on if you think you're man enough to beat up on a woman. :)

Does it work the same on humans? If so, can I borrow it after you're done with it?
 

getbent

Thats how them b*tch's R
I'm guessing you were answering my post? :howdy: Accident or not, I still do not find it funny! BTW I am a woman.

And nothing in your first post, about it being funny, stated that you were worried or concerned about the dog when it happened. Glad you were worried about the dog when it happened. :yay:

You're right it didn't. I guess I should have said that. Hubby felt really bad about it and gave me the remote. He just knew he'd probably sit on it again. It was more an "after the fact" being funny. Not him getting shocked just the image of him haulin azz around the deck.
 

Crashpupty

havoc is havoc
Have no clue. It did seem to work when Jim Carey did it on himself in the movie Fun with Dick and Jane :)

Strap it on and see how many times he sits on the remote. Then tell me how funny your pathetic humor about the event seems to be.
 

TurboK9

New Member
Shock collars are no substitute for good training, I for one hate them. To laugh about the tortue of an animal, on purpose or by accident is completly insane to me. I find no humor in this at all, only a reason shock collars should be strapped to the owners and tested before they can buy them. See how funny that is, and take videos so we can all see because you being shocked is way funnier than the amusement you got from shocking the dog. You fail as an owner, invest the time to train your dog and don't resort to the cheap training aids like shock collars and then post something like you did.

I actually, have used every training tool I own own myself before I've used them on my dogs. My absolute least favorite is the citronella sprayers, just what a dog needs with such a more sensitive shnoz, I failed to see anything humane there... Anyway, A properly set ecollar feels similar to licking a 9 volt battery, that is what you want the dog to feel. For doing proofing where a long line or leash is not practical, they are a wonderful tool. True, most casual pet owners will never really need one, as there are many other, and better options for most pet owners. However, for working dogs, they can be a wonderful asset and allow for levels of off leash training in realistic and distracting settings that cannot otherwise be easily achieved.

They were originally developed for breaking hunting dogs off of dear, and have developed into a very humane and effective tool for distance work that is unmatched if properly used. They should not be used to 'punish' the dog through shocking, but rather for regaining the dog's focus on commands when under the stress of distraction or when locked in prey drive. Nothing like it for reinforcing a long-range(300-400 yard) 'out' command (get off the bad guy and come back here).

We had one 'accident' where my at the time 3 YO son picked up the transmitter while I had my back turned, getting the dogs ready for a day of competition.... my son triggered it on 8 when I had never used more than level 2. Poor boy had no idea what he'd done till the dog cried out. I hit myself on 6 when I bought it to see what and where I would need to set it, expecting a milder stim like the cheap 'Pet Safe' collars give at that level... and it felt like I'd stuck a knife in an outlet. It was months before my dog recovered from that... When it happened, he vocalized and pinned himself to my leg in the 'heel' position, almost blowing out my knee... In competiton that day we failed utterly... he was too shook up. Afterwards if I so much as picked up the remote he would tremble and move to heel as if he'd just been beaten. Broke my heart... Took a lot of work to get him to trust the collar again... eventually he learned to love it again, it meant a day on the training field, and he loved working. I was lucky he was that resilient.

After that happened the transmitter went onto my belt before the collars went on the dogs, so no more 'accidents' could happen. We were competing frequently in protection events and worked security at the time and my dogs had to trust me, and because my dogs worked off leash with me I needed the assurance of an 'emergency brake' if things went bad (gators... not fun, but that's FL for you)....

Point being, they have their place, and can be awesome irreplaceable tools, but only when properly used... and sadly, most people never take the time to learn.
 
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