True believers

[vraiblonde]

These people terrify me. From a Lefty friend's FB page:

And this response:

Person 1: Nope...not an excuse for what we saw. Biden can read but he cannot think on his feet....sad

Person 2: quite the opposite. He was thinking too much. He is best when he can just respond. There’s a man who has to think how too deliver without a stutter, to a man who is bombarding lies at him, and (his biggest issue was trying too hard to) get out the information he wanted. He was trying to use the platform to also get out his platform, wrong place. At that time he. Needed to just respond to the lies. Trump has had certain lies he wanted repeated over and over to do damage and brainwash. Which he did (and does) well. He has no policies or plan other than himself so it’s easy for him to deliver.

I mean...my god. It's fascinating to watch, yet terrifying that these mindless cultists walk freely among us. How can you believe something so ridiculous without being mentally ill to the point of involuntary commitment to a mental health facility?

 

[SamSpade]

Trump's biggest failing - if you can call it that - is he does what a lot on the Left do as well ---

Yugely exaggerates. When he says "the best ever" - he means, well, at least the past 25 or 30 years. Or 10. Or ok, maybe second best, but otherwise really, really good. "Largest tax cut in history" - etc. Only if history starts with maybe, THIS century. We all know too many people with short memories.

(I just read some leftie nitwit claiming "Biden passed the most bipartisan legislation in history!". Umm, No. Not even close. He did pass at least ONE bill -or rather, supported, communicated and signed after it was past the House and Senate - with more than a few Republican signers. That will happen. Lots of stuff gets passed that's not STRICTLY partisan. Hemi is quick to point out that SCOTUS overwhelmingly makes decisions 9-0. That is correct. Those don't make the news. Congress churns out stuff all the time that isn't contentious.)

And that's the extent of his "lies" that I see analyzed. Best economy. Nooo. Kennedy/Johnson's was better. (Helloooo nitpick much? It WAS great).

Looking over Fact Check - yeah, again, hair splitting. Like Trump saying legal scholars all wanted to get rid of Roe. Well, no, obviously not all, but anyone of merit KNEW it stood on shaky legal ground on a presumed "right to privacy". Even RBG said that, although she supported it.

Some of his - "lies" - are not disproved. Just disputed. How MANY illegals are in the United States under Biden, and how many are criminals released from prisons? Well they don't really know that. What caused inflation? Certainly Biden had a lot to do with it, because it was under control by the time he took office. (Oh but you see, "inflation" is a lagging indicator, and it doesn't show up for months, even a year! Right. The 9% inflation came a YEAR after Joe signed a massive spending package).

 

[vraiblonde]

What caused inflation? Certainly Biden had a lot to do with it, because it was under control by the time he took office. (Oh but you see, "inflation" is a lagging indicator, and it doesn't show up for months, even a year! Right. The 9% inflation came a YEAR after Joe signed a massive spending package).

It's very clever of Republicans to make sure their horrible economic policies don't take effect until a Democrat president is in his second or third year in office. They do it every. single. time.

 

[SamSpade]

It's very clever of Republicans to make sure their horrible economic policies don't take effect until a Democrat president is in his second or third year in office. They do it every. single. time.

I do think we live in a world NOW, where heretofore "lagging" indicators affect economies MUCH faster than the previous years, because stuff happens so fast. Trading happens in markets in microseconds - done by algorithms, not people. Shipping goods is SO MUCH faster and more efficient. Information is instantaneous, and responses are as fast. Data on The Hill is leaked so often, that economies rattle and hum before the stuff is even signed.

Even you and I have seen - a change in the price of West Texas crude can affect the price of gas at the pump IN SECONDS, because they can DO that, now.

There's little question in my mind that Joe contributed GREATLY to inflation when he took office. Supply chain disruptions are all but a memory - yet inflation lingers EVEN WITH HIS MUCH BALLYHOOED "Inflation Reduction Act" (which I like to call the "Save the Puppies Act", because if you're going to name something with a name that doesn't actually DO that, you might as well save the puppies, too).

 

[Kyle]

Even you and I have seen - a change in the price of West Texas crude can affect the price of gas at the pump IN SECONDS, because they can DO that, now.

Joe declared his war on fossil fuel and low and behold, all the prices started rising.

Who'd have seen that coming?

Government, particularly the president, has the power to #### up so much in so short a time, it'd almost be better to do without them.

 

[stgislander]

Trump's biggest failing - if you can call it that - is he does what a lot on the Left do as well ---

Yugely exaggerates. When he says "the best ever" - he means, well, at least the past 25 or 30 years. Or 10. Or ok, maybe second best, but otherwise really, really good. "Largest tax cut in history" - etc. Only if history starts with maybe, THIS century. We all know too many people with short memories.

(I just read some leftie nitwit claiming "Biden passed the most bipartisan legislation in history!". Umm, No. Not even close. He did pass at least ONE bill -or rather, supported, communicated and signed after it was past the House and Senate - with more than a few Republican signers. That will happen. Lots of stuff gets passed that's not STRICTLY partisan. Hemi is quick to point out that SCOTUS overwhelmingly makes decisions 9-0. That is correct. Those don't make the news. Congress churns out stuff all the time that isn't contentious.)

And that's the extent of his "lies" that I see analyzed. Best economy. Nooo. Kennedy/Johnson's was better. (Helloooo nitpick much? It WAS great).

Looking over Fact Check - yeah, again, hair splitting. Like Trump saying legal scholars all wanted to get rid of Roe. Well, no, obviously not all, but anyone of merit KNEW it stood on shaky legal ground on a presumed "right to privacy". Even RBG said that, although she supported it.

Some of his - "lies" - are not disproved. Just disputed. How MANY illegals are in the United States under Biden, and how many are criminals released from prisons? Well they don't really know that. What caused inflation? Certainly Biden had a lot to do with it, because it was under control by the time he took office. (Oh but you see, "inflation" is a lagging indicator, and it doesn't show up for months, even a year! Right. The 9% inflation came a YEAR after Joe signed a massive spending package).

Gutfeld had the observation that Trump is a 'real estate guy' and that using hyperbole comes as naturally as breathing.

 

[LtownTaxpayer]

I keep being told that Trump will take us out of the NATO completely ignoring the rest of that issue. He wanted Europe to start living up to their financial contributions both to NATO and to their own defense. Why should the US be the nearly sole source of funding when they don't provide for their own defense? European nations have been spending more on defense, so once again Trump hyperbole as a negotiating tactic worked. I am sick of democrats and their lackeys parsing statements to pick out the bits they want and their able con-conspirators in the media pick it up and run with it.

 

[SamSpade]

I keep being told that Trump will take us out of the NATO completely ignoring the rest of that issue. He wanted Europe to start living up to their financial contributions both to NATO and to their own defense. Why should the US be the nearly sole source of funding when they don't provide for their own defense? European nations have been spending more on defense, so once again Trump hyperbole as a negotiating tactic worked. I am sick of democrats and their lackeys parsing statements to pick out the bits they want and their able con-conspirators in the media pick it up and run with it.

I'm not so sure we NEED to be in NATO. Certainly there needs to be an alliance to oppose Russia. Maybe everywhere.

But NATO was formed to protect Western Europe from Communist Europe. There's no Soviet Union, although the wish to expand the Russian Empire has never ended. WE were at the forefront, because we were and are, the world's strongest military and economy. The European Union, as a whole, is comparable in population, economy and military - as the United States. As long as they are committed to defending *THEMSELVES*, they don't need us.

My beef with them is, they won't do nothing until the Cossacks are on their throat.
Wars in Yugoslavia. Meh. Americans will do it. Maybe the Brits.
Russians pour into Georgia -meh.
They move into Ukraine - meh.
Next, probably Moldova or the Baltic States - meh, not my concern. They're Slavs/Poles/Georgians. Why should I give a sht.

OH SHT! A million Ukraines come into my country. Ok. We will send them weapons. Bye.
OH SHT! They blew up the damned Nordstream. Ok, We will send them money. Bye.


They have an astonishing lack of resolve, for anything.

Maybe we shouldn't be in NATO.

I do think Trump has an idea - this is guessing - that Russia won't like. He will call up Putin and say withdraw your troops or we admit Ukraine to NATO and then it's war. I think Putin is just crazy enough to say yeah, you're ON.

 

[GURPS]

Maybe we shouldn't be in NATO.

I don't think we should be .... we do not need bases in Europe any longer.

We have 30 hr Bomber Flights taking off and returning from the US

Ukraine is a European Problem, except for the fact the Intelligence Agencies and Military Industrial Complex is doing some shady crap there

 

[LightRoasted]

For your consideration ...

Get out of NATO? Hell, we are NATO. Without us there would be no NATO. We are the primary driving force of NATO. US armed services = NATO.

 

[GURPS]

For your consideration ...

Get out of NATO? Hell, we are NATO. Without us there would be no NATO. We are the primary driving force of NATO. US armed services = NATO.

Gotta Sell those Weapons Systems

 

[BOP]

These people terrify me. From a Lefty friend's FB page:

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And this response:



I mean...my god. It's fascinating to watch, yet terrifying that these mindless cultists walk freely among us. How can you believe something so ridiculous without being mentally ill to the point of involuntary commitment to a mental health facility?

Politics no longer looks like two political parties competing. Now it looks like a Dark Triad Personality cult -- mostly batshit crazy women, per James Carville -- that has gaslighted a zombie army into thinking Republicans are Hitler clones. On the other side is right-leaning people who recognize this as a mental health crisis and think voting is the solution. (Which might also be crazy.) Biden's cognitive decline is the final proof. If we were in a "political" mode there would be no question about replacing him. But we are not in any kind of political mode. We are in a mental health crisis caused by the gaslighting of batshit crazy women and the men who want to please them.

 

[BOP]

For your consideration ...

Get out of NATO? Hell, we are NATO. Without us there would be no NATO. We are the primary driving force of NATO. US armed services = NATO.

And they'll slap you with their camo purses if you don't like that.

 

[BOP]

Gotta Sell those Weapons Systems

Or give them to the French...and do nothing as they sell them.

 

[BOP]

It's very clever of Republicans to make sure their horrible economic policies don't take effect until a Democrat president is in his second or third year in office. They do it every. single. time.

That's the first time I can think of in...forever, that anyone accused the Republican't politicrats of being clever. Even tongue-in-cheek.

 

[SamSpade]

I will say this much in favor of NATO - it furthers our ability to station troops abroad. Among the traits that makes the United States so powerful is the ability to have a huge military presence anywhere in the world in hours.No other nation comes close.

 

[Kyle]

I will say this much in favor of NATO - it furthers our ability to station troops abroad. Among the traits that makes the United States so powerful is the ability to have a huge military presence anywhere in the world in hours.No other nation comes close.

Give it a few more years and China will surpass that.

 

[SamSpade]

Give it a few more years and China will surpass that.

I do think that is unlikely. China - for the past forty plus years, have banked on having the largest number of PEOPLE in their military. They've advanced their technology, but the U.S. has been able to maintain military primacy very strongly due to technological - and logistical - advantage. It's not in China's history to move its military around the world - just locally. The United States has had its finger around the globe in military conflicts - China - not so much. They don't seem to want to commit troops far afield from home.

 

[Kyle]

I do think that is unlikely. China - for the past forty plus years, have banked on having the largest number of PEOPLE in their military. They've advanced their technology, but the U.S. has been able to maintain military primacy very strongly due to technological - and logistical - advantage. It's not in China's history to move its military around the world - just locally. The United States has had its finger around the globe in military conflicts - China - not so much. They don't seem to want to commit troops far afield from home.

Right now they're building ports in other nations for "Commerce" but rest assured those ports have an alternate purpose being built in.

 

[vraiblonde]

Scott Adams is a sage for our time. I wouldn't let men off the hook because there's overwhelming evidence that they're batshit on their own and don't need a woman instigating it, but because women are emotion-based creatures it stands to reason they're going to get sucked into the narrative easier than men would.

But women as a whole don't come up with that stuff on their own; they just glom on when it's presented to them. Which begs the question of who is pulling the strings, and it's almost certainly a man.