Trump Admin vs Federal Employees
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BOP
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Late to this thread, but:
If I'm a federal worker, and I was, I'm not paying attention to the union. They have no authority to countermand a lawful order. As long as I'm satisfied that it's a legitimate request from Big HR, I'm complying. It's very simple.
And...if any of my fellow co-workers ask my opinion, I'll tell them exactly that.
Kyle
Beloved Misanthrope
More winning.
Kyle
Beloved Misanthrope
well, it should be easy to get a little fingerprint off the paper or tape and add another name to the list on the unemployment line.
quite frankly, they could probably get rid of 90% of the state department.
It’s been working against America for the last 50 years.
Tears and Rage: Left-Wingers Inside and Outside the State Department Lose It Over Layoffs
The State Department was inundated with emotions on Friday, ranging from tears to open rebellion. The Trump administration moved forward with laying off over 1,300 career officials after the Supreme Court gave the go-ahead in a recent decision. Over a thousand more had already taken voluntary deferred resignations.
The move comes as part of a restructuring led by Secretary of State Marco Rubio. That includes getting rid of various departments centered on "diversity, equity, and inclusion." I'm going to guess that includes those who gave the order to fly pride-progress flags at U.S. embassies.
In response, some flooded the lobby of the State Department to cry and "clap out" their now-former colleagues.
It sucks no matter who it is. I have friends and family who over the years lost their jobs even while doing good work - sometimes at the hands of a capricious boss. It sucks to know - you worked hard, did a good job - but the boss wants his buddy or girlfriend in your office.
I feel a little less sympathy for contractors and those still in their probationary period - they always know their jobs hang by a thread. And I really don’t have much sympathy for people who must certainly know they’re not doing the work.
PeoplesElbow
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Friend was fired from State Farm so her bosses husband could be hired.
Wife had something similar.
Federal Workers Are Being Held Accountable For The First Time, And They’re Not Handling It Well
Right now, there’s a lot of angst in certain corners about the Trump administration’s attempt to downsize the federal bureaucracy. I say “certain corners” because I don’t think this concern is widely held by American voters, but since I live in a Washington, D.C. suburb there’s a lot of anguished Facebook posts and fretful conversations between neighbors — to say nothing of a sudden increase in housing stock, following years of high mortgage rates suppressing the market.
On one hand, it’s hard to see anyone lose their job, let alone your neighbors. On the other hand, the D.C. area is one of the wealthiest areas in the country because at the bottom of a pyramid of absurdly well-compensated lawyers, lobbyists, and government contractors are about 400,000 federal employees. The average federal employee working in D.C. earns $120,305 in salary alone, not factoring in the federal government’s absurdly generous benefits.
Making things worse, a lot of the D.C. drama is federal workers realizing for perhaps the first time they are not impervious to being fired. Some years ago, a very fetching young woman had a full-time job reporting on the federal workforce. Among her findings: “Eight cabinet-level departments — employing about 486,000 people — did not fire a single employee for poor performance between 1998 and 2003.” Granted, Mrs. Hemingway wrote that story quite a while ago, so I checked to see if things are getting better. According to the Office of Personnel Management’s website, out of 2,313,216 federal employees, last year just 5,988 employees were terminated for discipline or performance reasons, roughly one quarter of one percent. Once you get a federal job, it’s more or less impossible to lose it.
Hijinx
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As one who has tried I can say that it is almost impossible to rid an agency of incompetent personnel.
glhs837
Power with Control
Over the years I've watched some serious incompetents just mosey along. Just like a school systems dance of the lemons.
PeoplesElbow
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See I don't really get this, any manager that puts the work in can do it. My fairly small department has fired about 10 people over the 25 years I've worked there.
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
Yes you fire them and then instead of paying them you pay unemployment.
Gotta learn to play the game 10 day layoff, call them back, next month 10 day lay off again, after once or twice they get the message and leave on their own. At will employment works both ways.