Trump announces
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frequentflier
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Why should Trump be involved? You would think the airlines would have grounded them!
Why shouldn't he, NTSB and the FAA are federal entities. Neither seems willing to issue the order to ground the fleet as they continue to look into the causes of the two recent tragedies, almost every other nation in the world has barred their operation. How many more people should die while awaiting the agencies responsible to issue the order?
frequentflier
happy to be living
Well, that makes sense.
TCROW
Well-Known Member
We know the cause of the recent crashes.
The Max 8 was redesigned and the larger engines moved forward. This tends to cause the nose to point up, which of course can cause stalls. The MCAS (Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System) corrects by pointing nose down with no input from the pilot.
Boeing and carriers did a terrible job at disclosing this and training pilots, and no one thought that automaton that can put plane into a nose dive was a bad idea.
Pilots can disable auto trim stabilizers and manually trim on the yoke. In the Lion Air case, we know the pilot was yanking on the yoke, which led to panic and the wrong steps being taken subsequently.
Considering that they haven't read the Ethiopian data recorders yet, how do we know the cause of that crash? As to Lion Air, the pilots actions were contributing factors, but wasn't it the AOA sensor that was faulty that led to the MCAS commands creating the situation?
It wasn't a tweet, you twit, it was a televised announcement where I saw him make this "emergency declaration".
afjess1989
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GWguy
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That's what I remember. AOA sensor/software quirk.
transporter
Well-Known Member
You SAW him make an "emergency declaration??? DID YOU LISTEN???? (obviously not)
Trump did not decide unilaterally to ground the planes you illiterate moron. He announced an FAA decision to ground the planes....not HIS decision.
Here is the video: https://apnews.com/2b26b0e35dc64e35838958a13fac9d94
Here is the FAA statement: https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsId=93206
Well you stupid tw@t, the twit said it was a tweet, it wasn't. Go twot your horn elsewhere.
Now to the rest of your idiotic rambling, the President made his declaration/order about an hour before the FAA made its announcement (and after they had been non-decisive since the latest crash to take any action at all). Just follow your own link you dumb bitch. It was his decision and after making it his minions followed his orders.
Now to the rest of your idiotic rambling, the President made his declaration/order about an hour before the FAA made its announcement (and after they had been non-decisive since the latest crash to take any action at all). Just follow your own link you dumb bitch. It was his decision and after making it his minions followed his orders.
TCROW
Well-Known Member
It was not the president’s decision. It was Boeing’s decision in consultation with the FAA and NTSB.
Boeing temporarily grounds its 737 Max jets in U.S.
Speaking from the White House, Trump said the planes currently in the air would be ordered to land, and that airlines and pilots had been notified of the decision.
awpitt
Main Streeter
This whole thing is unfortunate. Lion Air has a safety record that leaves something to be desired. Even to the point that Lion Air was banned from European Air space for a period of time. Haven't looked into Ethiopian Air yet. I think these two tragedies were caused by more than the MAX's avionics but I think Trump was right to ground them. At least until we can be sure. I've been a passenger on a 737 MAX 8 twice in the last six months. Both times were on Southwest.
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I heard that too. Also heard that Lion Air might have been using second-hand parts.