Trump impeachment based on unreliable presumptions, rumor and innuendo – Not facts

GURPS

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Question: So you really have no testimony today that ties President Trump to a scheme to withhold aid from Ukraine in exchange for these investigations.

Sondland: Other than my own presumption.


Throughout four days of tortured hearings, Americans have been force-fed the gruel of speculation, interpretation, opinion, multiple hearsay, and now “presumptions.”

This is impeachment by rumor and innuendo. And that is no presumption.



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Hijinx

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What a clusterphuck this is.
These people are unfit to be in our nations Legislative branch of Government.

And worse they see they have nothing and are too stupid to stop.
They have enough evidence against Obama and Hillary to convict anyone and they ignore it and make up BS charges against the President.
 

transporter

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The only people in this world who don't understand the testimony are the ignorati types who get ginned up by a Russian bot like our good comrade GURPS.

Of course, our good comrade has nothing to point to other than deflection and distraction.

Who benefited from an investigation of the Bidens? No one...other than Trump.

What benefit did an investigation of corruption in the Ukraine have to the US? None. Why? Because the US completed an investigation of Ukraine corruption in May.

Here was the exchange with Rep. Jim Himes (D-CT) and Cooper:



Himes: Congress is also concerned about corruption. It wants to ensure that American foreign assistance is spent wisely and does not worsen corruption. So when congress authorized this money, it built-in conditions, just as Mr. Ratcliffe suggested. By law, Ukraine wouldn’t get all the money until it demonstrated it had undertaken substantial anti-corruption reforms. Miss cooper, under the law, the department of defense works with the State Department and other agencies to establish anti-corruption benchmarks and determine whether Ukraine has sufficiently met those benchmarks, correct?

Cooper: That’s correct. That provision pertains to the Ukraine security assistance initiative.

Himes: That’s a legally specified process. That’s not the president in the oval office manifesting a general skepticism of foreign aid. Right?

Cooper: It is a congressionally mandated process, yes, sir.

Himes: Did that process take place for the DOD funding that was held up in July?

Cooper: Sir, the process that took place for the certification took place prior to the may certification to the U.S.

Himes: So, right. Not only did it take place before, as required by law, but months before president trump froze the money, the department of defense in consultation with state sent a letter to congress certifying, and you said this in your opening statement. The government of Ukraine has taken substantial actions to make defense institutional reforms for the purposes of decreasing corruption, increasing accountability and sustaining improvements of combat capability enabled by U.S. Assistance.

So by the time President Trump froze the aid, the department of defense had spent weeks, if not months, determining that the Ukrainian government met every requirement in the law and made significant strides in combating corruption. Is that correct?

Cooper: That is correct. We made that determination in may.




Sorry comrade, as usual, your bullshit rumor, innuendo and presumption comment doesn't hold up.

These people who are testifying aren't ingorati types...they are highly qualified professionals with gobs and gobs of experience. They know what is right and what is wrong. They know the laws. They understand that there is a difference between policy that is pursued in the best interests of America and policy that is pursued in the best interests of an incompetent, inept, unfit and lawless President.
 

nutz

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But all the headlines are that Trump is the problem, every one testifies has the smoking gun and the calibers are getting larger. I’m expecting the USS Iowa to be sailing up the Anacostia any day.

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Hijinx

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But all the headlines are that Trump is the problem, every one testifies has the smoking gun and the calibers are getting larger. I’m expecting the USS Iowa to be sailing up the Anacostia any day.

:sarcasm:

The Wisconsin is in Norfolk why wait for the Iowa to come from California.
 
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BOP

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