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vraiblonde

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Why would he sit for interviews with those he calls "fake news"? He had to have known that Piers Morgan would edit the piece to paint Trump in the worst possible light, same as Lesley Stahl did. So why waste time on those people? Any Trump interview benefits them, not Trump, so why does Trump keep giving these sociopaths the time of day?
 

SamSpade

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Because at one time - he and Trump were friends. Because Piers has actually stood up for Trump.

And from what I can tell, the hatchet job they did promoting the piece was the work of his staff, to get viewers. As you know, an audio of the interview showed that it didn't end as they suggested.
 

SamSpade

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Yeah.

It's not true.

Agreed. Although it's often true when you are an established celebrity and can alter the narrative.

Many years ago, both my parents were deeply involved in the cult I have often talked about. They came in about ten years after me, and they remained IN IT, until their death. While I have many bad things to say about it, their experience was vastly different - probably due to age. I think it's likely that no one feels the need to manipulate, guilt or harass an older established elderly couple. They became the beloved grandparents of everyone in the church, and I totally credit that church for bringing stability and - dare I say - happiness to a couple that may have been doomed.

One year, a local paper did a long article on that church - and their main sources were disgruntled ex-members. And I use disgruntled as a euphemism - these were - and one in particular - the kind of people you would probably dislike upon first meeting. They are THAT argumentative and hard to get along with.

And one of them said things about my Dad which - when I read them - I thought - is he talking about my Dad? This is crap. I've known him all my life - I've spent years trying to be just like him - and the man he's describing I wouldn't find in the darkest prison or mental institution. I could only read so much before it was apparent that this guy had pinned his grievances on probably the one person who tried harder than anyone else, to help him. I KNEW this church - I knew good people, but I also knew that had limits to how much crap they'd endure. And my Dad was an idealist, like me. He believed NO ONE was irredeemable.

I also noticed that the writer of the article made no effort to corroborate the rantings of some of these. I mean, even in regular hit pieces on my church, I would see that despite the anti-church bias that was there, there'd be SOME TOKEN effort to get a statement. Nope.

Ever since then - well, I generally detest "journalists" as people who want to SELL news, not investigate it or report it.
 

22AcaciaAve

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It works out for Trump. The fact is that there is nothing he can say or do that will turn off his supporters. He could say the Earth was flat and they would believe him. There is also nothing he can say or do that would cause his opponents to admit he was right. If he said the Earth is obviously round, they would try to find ways to prove that it was flat.

So Trump's reasoning for giving an interview of this sort is two fold. One, it keeps his name out there in the public. Two, it portrays him as the victim and the fighter against the media that is against him.

The fact is that there is very little wiggle room here. Trump's supporters will always back him. Trump's haters will never back him. The only middle ground is the independents that gave him a narrow electoral victory in 2016, and then were tired of his antics and cost him a victory in 2020, no matter what he says. It's hard to see that changing.

I would prefer that Trump be the proverbial "King Maker" and try to build the America First brand. But I'm not sure that Trump is built to be anything but the star of the show. Something in his DNA makes it impossible for him to take a back seat.
 

BOP

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It works out for Trump. The fact is that there is nothing he can say or do that will turn off his supporters. He could say the Earth was flat and they would believe him. There is also nothing he can say or do that would cause his opponents to admit he was right. If he said the Earth is obviously round, they would try to find ways to prove that it was flat.

So Trump's reasoning for giving an interview of this sort is two fold. One, it keeps his name out there in the public. Two, it portrays him as the victim and the fighter against the media that is against him.

The fact is that there is very little wiggle room here. Trump's supporters will always back him. Trump's haters will never back him. The only middle ground is the independents that gave him a narrow electoral victory in 2016, and then were tired of his antics and cost him a victory in 2020, no matter what he says. It's hard to see that changing.

I would prefer that Trump be the proverbial "King Maker" and try to build the America First brand. But I'm not sure that Trump is built to be anything but the star of the show. Something in his DNA makes it impossible for him to take a back seat.
My main disagreement here has to do with the last sentence of the first paragraph.

Leftists are like that, or they were with the Won. With President Houseplant, not so much.

IF Trump were to say "the earth is flat," almost to a person, his supporters would go "Sure, big guy; keep telling yourself that." And then they (we) would say to ourselves "look what's he's done for the economy and against crime."
 

SamSpade

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IF Trump were to say "the earth is flat," almost to a person, his supporters would go "Sure, big guy; keep telling yourself that." And then they (we) would say to ourselves "look what's he's done for the economy and against crime."

That's spot on. I was in a cult once - I know about how people can believe up is down and black is white. Trump supporters are nothing like that. They'd shrug and say so what, he's getting it done, unlike the others.

Trump is like the tough coach you had in school, who made you do extra laps and push-ups and was always on your ass for screwing up, screaming in your face and insulting you. But he made you a better athlete and your team won games. A lot. So when he bragged about team accomplishments that you knew were exaggerated, you'd shrug - because you knew the last three coaches either barely phoned it in or wanted to be your friend while they taught you nothing.
 
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Kyle

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Trump supporters are nothing like that. They'd shrug and say so what, he's getting it done, unlike the others.
And that's it.

I dont care how many mean tweets, I laugh when he burns the left, I ignore his braggadociousness because he was getting it done.

Unfortunately there are so many that prefer appearance over substance that we have Presidente Potty-Pants now.
 
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