Has anyone ever seen the Kyle Dinkheller shooting video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOSELcrJ7Kw
This is one of the reasons that police officers do not let suspects go back to a vehicle they exited.
Look at the scenario that the Tulsa officer encountered.
A car is stopped in the middle of the street. Most times if a vehicle breaks down, you can coast it to the shoulder. But, say in this instance he wasn't able to. Most people who have broken down and approached by a cop say straight away that they're broken down. This guy didn't ask for help or say anything about being stranded. According to the deputy and at least one witness, he was heard to have said something along the lines of he was going to blow, or it was going to blow.
De-escalation was attempted by giving verbal commands about what to do, which he refused to follow. Should she have engaged him with a less than lethal weapon, that are not always effective at a shorter distance?
If she had in fact heard him saying something about "it's going to blow" or "I'm going to blow", would she have maybe thought that it's possible he had an explosive device in the vehicle. We did just have a few IED explosions go off in the U.S. not that long ago. Could that have been a factor in her decision to shoot?
Another officer did use a taser, or try to use a taser, at the same time she shot. Does everyone perceive risk the same way? Did she get there before him and assess the situation as a greater risk than the other officer?
Just a little while ago, a West Virginia police officer was fired because he was trying to de-escalate a situation that he thought was a case of suicide by cop. But, the guy did have a gun in his hand, it was found later to be unloaded but the officer didn't know it at the time. As other officers arrived to the scene, the guy with a gun started waving it around and pointing it at the newly arrived officers, which resulted in them killing the man. The officer was fired for putting the other officers at risk. At the moment that guy pointed a gun at the newly arrived officers, he should have shot the man.
Did she see or hear something that would cause her to think the situation was more dangerous than it really was that her fellow officers may not have seen or heard? Were there other people in the vehicle, were there houses around, maybe a school? If the guy was able to get into a car and did have an IED, was he going to drive it to the hospital down the street and detonate it in the parking lot?
Why was he stopped in the middle of the road, why didn't he listen to the officers commands?
These are all questions that none of us know because none of us were there. It's easy to say that someone fvcked up and handled a situation wrong when you have the luxury of watching it after it happened, in the comfort of your home on a computer screen.
I've got $5 that says she walks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOSELcrJ7Kw
This is one of the reasons that police officers do not let suspects go back to a vehicle they exited.
Look at the scenario that the Tulsa officer encountered.
A car is stopped in the middle of the street. Most times if a vehicle breaks down, you can coast it to the shoulder. But, say in this instance he wasn't able to. Most people who have broken down and approached by a cop say straight away that they're broken down. This guy didn't ask for help or say anything about being stranded. According to the deputy and at least one witness, he was heard to have said something along the lines of he was going to blow, or it was going to blow.
De-escalation was attempted by giving verbal commands about what to do, which he refused to follow. Should she have engaged him with a less than lethal weapon, that are not always effective at a shorter distance?
If she had in fact heard him saying something about "it's going to blow" or "I'm going to blow", would she have maybe thought that it's possible he had an explosive device in the vehicle. We did just have a few IED explosions go off in the U.S. not that long ago. Could that have been a factor in her decision to shoot?
Another officer did use a taser, or try to use a taser, at the same time she shot. Does everyone perceive risk the same way? Did she get there before him and assess the situation as a greater risk than the other officer?
Just a little while ago, a West Virginia police officer was fired because he was trying to de-escalate a situation that he thought was a case of suicide by cop. But, the guy did have a gun in his hand, it was found later to be unloaded but the officer didn't know it at the time. As other officers arrived to the scene, the guy with a gun started waving it around and pointing it at the newly arrived officers, which resulted in them killing the man. The officer was fired for putting the other officers at risk. At the moment that guy pointed a gun at the newly arrived officers, he should have shot the man.
Did she see or hear something that would cause her to think the situation was more dangerous than it really was that her fellow officers may not have seen or heard? Were there other people in the vehicle, were there houses around, maybe a school? If the guy was able to get into a car and did have an IED, was he going to drive it to the hospital down the street and detonate it in the parking lot?
Why was he stopped in the middle of the road, why didn't he listen to the officers commands?
These are all questions that none of us know because none of us were there. It's easy to say that someone fvcked up and handled a situation wrong when you have the luxury of watching it after it happened, in the comfort of your home on a computer screen.
I've got $5 that says she walks.