Ukraine, ???

BernieP

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This story came out in February 2014.
Sort of like running a story with 2015 data and blaming Trump.
Or running a story in 2017 about a No vote in the UN so they can link Trump to being a Nazi sympathizer, when in fact previous presidents had not signed the resolution (or vetored it) - The irony in both cases was the rationale and details were in the body of the story, but the headline was damning and fired people up.
Yes, it's from 2014 and it's at the heart of the so called Impeachment Inquiry. Turns out more than Biden is tied to the Ukraine by dirty money.
 
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Hijinx

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Isn't that about the same time Hillary lost 6 Billion from the State Department.

These Democrats don't play around with mere Millions they go for the big B Billions.
 
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Chris0nllyn

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Sort of like running a story with 2015 data and blaming Trump.
Or running a story in 2017 about a No vote in the UN so they can link Trump to being a Nazi sympathizer, when in fact previous presidents had not signed the resolution (or vetored it) - The irony in both cases was the rationale and details were in the body of the story, but the headline was damning and fired people up.
Yes, it's from 2014 and it's at the heart of the so called Impeachment Inquiry. Turns out more than Biden is tied to the Ukraine by dirty money.

Yes, just like that.

And no, it's not the "heart" of the inquiry.
 

GregV814

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While the Obama administration publicly hopped the bandwagon of “change” in Ukraine, sending the FBI and U.S. Treasury to investigate the crimes of the previous corrupt regime, it left the current corrupt regime alone. As it turned out, nobody really missed the missing IMF billions and Mr. Kolomoisky wasn’t bothered
 

BernieP

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Yes, just like that.

And no, it's not the "heart" of the inquiry.

That was sarcasm. In this case the relevance is the ongoing concern over corruption in the Ukranine.
Here''s why it and the questions about Joe and Hunter Biden are still relevant.
Biden’s role at Burisma Holdings Ltd has come under intense scrutiny following unsupported accusations by U.S. President Donald Trump that Joe Biden improperly tried to help his son’s business interests in Ukraine.

Interviews with more than a dozen people, including executives and former prosecutors in Ukraine, paint a picture of a director who provided advice on legal issues, corporate finance and strategy during a five-year term on the board, which ended in April of this year.

Biden never visited Ukraine for company business during that time, according to three of the people.

They also said that his presence on the board didn’t protect the company from its most serious challenge: a series of criminal investigations launched by Ukrainian authorities against its owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, a multimillionaire former minister of ecology and natural resources. The allegations concern tax violations, money-laundering and licences given to Burisma during the period where Zlochevsky was a minister.

But wait, we have Joe on video bragging about turning around and giving them 6 hours to fire the prosecutor.
I see a lot of BS here, and might I say typical liberal BS.

Did you ever notice how every liberal politician is the smartest most brilliant person in the world? From Hillary Clinton to AOC.
Let's look at Hunter Binden's experience that would qualify him to be offering such advice? He's young, so not many years in. He's an addict, his work experience seems to be getting appointed as an expert, sort of like Chelsea Clinton, but never having worked in the field.

So the relevance is corruption in the Ukraine and how American tax dollars are being spent.

The Democrats in the House seem to think ti's inappropriate for Trump to ask them to investigate, to address theses past complaints and to assure him they have been rectified. In 2014 it wasn't a problem for the US to be concerned.

How can they use the word unsupported when there have been all these allegations in the past that were never addressed?
No granted, the election interference was probably mild compared to the wide spread online campaign by the Russians.
But apparently the Ukraine was the origin of the Steele dossier, which has been investigated and found to be nothing more than opposition research that was in large part fabricated to smear then republican candidate Donald Trump.


Personally, I'm not happy with Trump's behavior, do I think he makes a point, yes, I just don't like the way he goes about it.
But now it's come out that an supervisory FBI agent altered the FISA warrant application and is under indictment (or will be).
 
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