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OccamsRazor

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If a Supreme Court Justice says you need to be a Biologist to determine if someone is a "woman" then shouldn't the Supreme Court ultimately consult or defer to Biologists to determine "women's" reproductive rights?

It's either a Paradox or, it is Hypocrisy. Which one?
 

Clem72

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If a Supreme Court Justice says you need to be a Biologist to determine if someone is a "woman" then shouldn't the Supreme Court ultimately consult or defer to Biologists to determine "women's" reproductive rights?

It's either a Paradox or, it is Hypocrisy. Which one?

Not going to weigh in on the issue itself, but generally I lean more to the current pro-life side (or lets call it the pro-choice of the 70s/80s).

But your argument is bogus. Do you need to be a murderer or consult with murderers to determine their rights to murder people? Courts rely on expert witnesses precisely because they are not expected to be experts in anything other than the law. And I can pretty much guarantee this case that had the opinion leaked had some form of expert testimony.
 

OccamsRazor

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But your argument is bogus.
So, you say my argument is bogus, and then...
Courts rely on expert witnesses precisely because they are not expected to be experts in anything other than the law. And I can pretty much guarantee this case that had the opinion leaked had some form of expert testimony.
You justify half of my argument with this? Experts = Biologists :sshrug:
 

Merlin99

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If a Supreme Court Justice says you need to be a Biologist to determine if someone is a "woman" then shouldn't the Supreme Court ultimately consult or defer to Biologists to determine "women's" reproductive rights?

It's either a Paradox or, it is Hypocrisy. Which one?
Reproductive rights don't have to have the gender attached
 

Clem72

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So, you say my argument is bogus, and then...

You justify half of my argument with this? Experts = Biologists :sshrug:

To clarify, no they don't need the expert to determine the "rights", that's their job. The expert clarifies the questions like "what is a woman" or "when does life begin".
 

DaSDGuy

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If a Supreme Court Justice says you need to be a Biologist to determine if someone is a "woman" then shouldn't the Supreme Court ultimately consult or defer to Biologists to determine "women's" reproductive rights?

It's either a Paradox or, it is Hypocrisy. Which one?
Neither Paradox nor Hypocrisy. You are comparing the opinion of one Supreme Court Justice to the entire Supreme Court. Not a valid comparison and it has no legal standing. The entire Unpopular Paradoxical Question thread is invalid because you are making false comparisons.
 

OccamsRazor

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Neither Paradox nor Hypocrisy. You are comparing the opinion of one Supreme Court Justice to the entire Supreme Court. Not a valid comparison and it has no legal standing. The entire Unpopular Paradoxical Question thread is invalid because you are making false comparisons.
So when a Congressman says they want to "Tax everyone MORE" then it is not a valid statement since they are not the entire Congress? This is a Paradox since you have people voting on the rights of something that has been self admitted (by one Justice) that she doesn't even know what they are. Hence, my reference to consulting Biologists.
 

DaSDGuy

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So when a Congressman says they want to "Tax everyone MORE" then it is not a valid statement since they are not the entire Congress? This is a Paradox since you have people voting on the rights of something that has been self admitted (by one Justice) that she doesn't even know what they are. Hence, my reference to consulting Biologists.
Until Congress votes as a whole to Tax Everyone More, it's just one Congressman voicing an opinion.
 

SamSpade

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If a Supreme Court Justice says you need to be a Biologist to determine if someone is a "woman" then shouldn't the Supreme Court ultimately consult or defer to Biologists to determine "women's" reproductive rights?

It's either a Paradox or, it is Hypocrisy. Which one?
She may have not phrased her response well, but I do agree that she shouldn't have taken the bait. That question was asked SOLELY to ensnare her on the whole trans issue.

When people are scrutinizing a nominee for SCOTUS - they have to understand that the nominee must not and should not disclose how they might vote on a case that hasn't even come before the court.
 

OccamsRazor

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The baby maker, be it a man, woman or what have you. We’re only talking hypotheticals here because we all know the truth of the matter, women can have babies and men can’t.
The baby "maker" or the baby "haver?" I would argue that the right to choose has been firmly planted with the baby "haver." But, I do see your point.
 
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