Volkswagen Help

If anybody has a Volkswagen, I request that they check and see if the locking lugnut "key" has 15 points. If it does, would I be able to borrow it? I bought a used VW last summer, and went to get the tires rotated/balanced last weekend, only to find out that I have locking lugnuts and no key for them. I want to remove them and replace with standard, non-locking lugnuts.
TIA,
Huntr
 

Dukesdad

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If anybody has a Volkswagen, I request that they check and see if the locking lugnut "key" has 15 points. If it does, would I be able to borrow it? I bought a used VW last summer, and went to get the tires rotated/balanced last weekend, only to find out that I have locking lugnuts and no key for them. I want to remove them and replace with standard, non-locking lugnuts.
TIA,
Huntr

went through the same thing. my key was actually in a tool bag in the right side of the trunk well.
I'll check mine and see if its a 15 point.
 

dustin

UAIOE
IIRC, assuming it is factory lugnuts, there should be a code on the side of the lugs and/or in the owner's manual so you can order a new key
 
went through the same thing. my key was actually in a tool bag in the right side of the trunk well.
I'll check mine and see if its a 15 point.
I checked the bag, checked the compartment in case it fell out, checked the spare tire well, checked the glovebox, checked under the seats. Checked everywhere I can think of. No lugnut key.

If yours is 15 point, I'd appreciate the loan. Just need it long enough to remove the stupid locks and replace them with standard lugnuts.
 
IIRC, assuming it is factory lugnuts, there should be a code on the side of the lugs and/or in the owner's manual so you can order a new key
Can't see the side of the lug since it's down inside the rim. Found the part number on Passatworld.com. Planning to call VW Waldorf today to see if they have one.
 

aps45819

24/7 Single Dad
Get the replacements and try a tire service company. I just got a couple of new tires from Mr. Tire and they didn't ask for my key.

If you're tossing them can you get a set of vise grips on them?
 
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Dakota

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When we took our VW in (Mr. Tire), they used an impact wrench to get ours off. Of course it ruins them but we just had the non-locking ones put on.

You said you were changing them anyway.
 
Get the replacements and try a tire service company. I just got a couple of new tires from Mr. Tire and they didn't ask for my key.

If you're tossing them can you get a set of vise grips on them?

When we took our VW in (Mr. Tire), they used an impact wrench to get ours off. Of course it ruins them but we just had the non-locking ones put on.

You said you were changing them anyway.

Can't get vise grips on them. They are recessed into the rims.

Southern Tire wasn't able to remove them when I went to get the tires rotated (how I found out about the locks).

Will get them off one way or another hopefully this weekend.
 

thatguy

New Member
Can't get vise grips on them. They are recessed into the rims.

Southern Tire wasn't able to remove them when I went to get the tires rotated (how I found out about the locks).

Will get them off one way or another hopefully this weekend.

if you have an old socket that will almost fit over the lock you can get them off. It is best to use a made in china or tiawan socket, they deform more easily. Take your socket and pound it onto the lock using a small sludgehammer. Once it gets a good bite, connect a breaker bar and remove the lock like it is a traditional lug not. the hard part is usually getting the old lock out of the socket so you can remove subsequent locks.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
If anybody has a Volkswagen, I request that they check and see if the locking lugnut "key" has 15 points. If it does, would I be able to borrow it? I bought a used VW last summer, and went to get the tires rotated/balanced last weekend, only to find out that I have locking lugnuts and no key for them. I want to remove them and replace with standard, non-locking lugnuts.
TIA,
Huntr

Did you check,
In the trunk, under the spare tire cover or, to the right inside the trunk there is a compartment, or a neting type thing. You should have a vinyl pouch that has a couple things in it, one of those is the lug key.

You can also get them at Pep Boys or the dealer.
If I was close enough to you I would lend you mine, but by the time you travel up this way and burn the fuel, you could have bought one or two. (you are going to need to have one anyway.)
 
if you have an old socket that will almost fit over the lock you can get them off. It is best to use a made in china or tiawan socket, they deform more easily. Take your socket and pound it onto the lock using a small sludgehammer. Once it gets a good bite, connect a breaker bar and remove the lock like it is a traditional lug not. the hard part is usually getting the old lock out of the socket so you can remove subsequent locks.
It's a male adapter I need, not female.
I'm going to see if one of the torx or hex sockets I have will fit inside the head tonight. If not, I guess I will be buying the adapter from VW of Waldorf for $36.00. They claim to have one in stock.
 
Did you check,
In the trunk, under the spare tire cover or, to the right inside the trunk there is a compartment, or a neting type thing. You should have a vinyl pouch that has a couple things in it, one of those is the lug key.

You can also get them at Pep Boys or the dealer.
If I was close enough to you I would lend you mine, but by the time you travel up this way and burn the fuel, you could have bought one or two. (you are going to need to have one anyway.)
I have looked everywhere in the car. Going to look again tonight to make absolutely sure before I go and spend $36.00 on a piece I wish I did not need in the first place.

Is yours a 15 point? 'Cause if it is, I could get it from you in Silver Spring one day during the week.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
I have looked everywhere in the car. Going to look again tonight to make absolutely sure before I go and spend $36.00 on a piece I wish I did not need in the first place.

Is yours a 15 point? 'Cause if it is, I could get it from you in Silver Spring one day during the week.

I will have to actually look and see, I didnt know there were different ones.
 

thatguy

New Member
It's a male adapter I need, not female.
I'm going to see if one of the torx or hex sockets I have will fit inside the head tonight. If not, I guess I will be buying the adapter from VW of Waldorf for $36.00. They claim to have one in stock.

if they dont, see if you can fit a socket over the entire lug. dont worry about the shape of the key.......

The one i removed had a crazy S shape that would have required a male adapter as well, but if the socket can be driven on to the outside of the nut you can still get it off.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
I've removed a number of locking lug nuts over the years by simply welding a regular nut right to the head of 'em. I hate to do that when fancy chrome or alloy wheels are involved though because there will inevitably be splatter damage..
 
I've removed a number of locking lug nuts over the years by simply welding a regular nut right to the head of 'em. I hate to do that when fancy chrome or alloy wheels are involved though because there will inevitably be splatter damage..

If it comes to that, just use a cutting rod and cut it off.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
If it comes to that, just use a cutting rod and cut it off.

Its far less brutal or damaging to just weld a 'real' nut on to the locking one. Heck..I just did that same exact thing not two days ago to all the large 'torx head' bolts holding a 2007 F-250 pickup bed on the frame. The bed need to come off..wrecked..but after 5 busted T-50 torx bits, most of the bolts were refusing to budge. Brought it to our shop...Zap..zap..zap..welded a bunch of 3/4 ID nuts on top of each one and they were busted loose and out in 5 minutes flat.:buddies:
 
Its far less brutal or damaging to just weld a 'real' nut on to the locking one. Heck..I just did that same exact thing not two days ago to all the large 'torx head' bolts holding a 2007 F-250 pickup bed on the frame. The bed need to come off..wrecked..but after 5 busted T-50 torx bits, most of the bolts were refusing to budge. Brought it to our shop...Zap..zap..zap..welded a bunch of 3/4 ID nuts on top of each one and they were busted loose and out in 5 minutes flat.:buddies:

Roger, that. :yay:
 
I've removed a number of locking lug nuts over the years by simply welding a regular nut right to the head of 'em. I hate to do that when fancy chrome or alloy wheels are involved though because there will inevitably be splatter damage..
:NoWelder:
 
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