Vote FOR Question 1 on the State Ballot

mygoldnhorse

Cowgirl Up
Sprawl is paving over Maryland, threatening our drinking water, and imposing on our quality of life. At the very least, we must stop this from happening to lands already protected from development.

Two years ago, the state was caught red-handed trying to sell protected land to a developer to build luxury homes. In 2004, the state tried to sell the so- called Salem Tract—an environmentally sensitive 836- acre tract of land in St. Mary’s County—to a private developer for the same price the state purchased it in 2003. The developer, who stood to gain approximately $7 million in tax breaks in exchange for donating about 200 acres to St. Mary’s for schools and to preserve the remaining land, pulled out of the deal when press exposed that he planned to build houses on portions of the “preserved” property. Next month, we’re going to have the chance to vote on a constitutional amendment that would prevent that sort of thing from happening.

The 2005 General Assembly, passed a bill with bipartisan support which established the language for the constitutional amendment and that it be submitted to Maryland voters for adoption or rejection. This amendment, Question #1 on the November ballot, will prevent the state from selling any preserved state park, conservation, or recreational land without approval from the General Assembly and if passed would ultimately protect farms, parks, and open spaces for future generations. Both gubernatorial candidates support the amendment, which goes hand-in-hand with other legislation passed to protect open space.

Ballot Language:

Question 1 - Constitutional Amendment

Disposition of Park Lands

The Board of Public Works may not approve the sale, transfer, exchange, grant or other permanent disposition of any state-owned outdoor recreation, open space, conservation, preservation, forest, or parkland without the express approval of the General Assembly or of a committee that the General Assembly designates by statute, resolution or rule.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
I feel like, who cares? If some developer wants to purchase protected land to build on, he'll just grease the palms of the General Assembly instead of the Public Works people. So, in the end, it won't really matter.
 

mygoldnhorse

Cowgirl Up
That's just the point we do need to start caring. Unless, of course you want all of Southern MD to look like Waldorf, Lexington Park, etc..... but I for one do not and hope that there are others who do care.
 

willie

Well-Known Member
vraiblonde said:
I feel like, who cares? If some developer wants to purchase protected land to build on, he'll just grease the palms of the General Assembly instead of the Public Works people. So, in the end, it won't really matter.
Greasing the General assembly would be much more public.
 

Makavide

Not too talkative
mygoldnhorse said:
Ballot Language:

Question 1 - Constitutional Amendment

Disposition of Park Lands

The Board of Public Works may not approve the sale, transfer, exchange, grant or other permanent disposition of any state-owned outdoor recreation, open space, conservation, preservation, forest, or parkland without the express approval of the General Assembly or of a committee that the General Assembly designates by statute, resolution or rule.


So, we will vote on this amendment, it passes, the general assembly will then pass a resolution that will appoint some other agency, or group (probably back to the public works) or even one person to be charge. If they got rid of the last 14 words it might work.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
Makavide said:
So, we will vote on this amendment, it passes, the general assembly will then pass a resolution that will appoint some other agency, or group (probably back to the public works) or even one person to be charge. If they got rid of the last 14 words it might work.
And there you have it.

I see stuff like this as feel-good legislation designed to shut the masses up - "See? We DID something. Now go back to your soap operas :smack:." In the end, it really won't make a bit of difference. Some developer will come calling with his checkbook out and all bets are off.
 

mygoldnhorse

Cowgirl Up
Makavide said:
So, we will vote on this amendment, it passes, the general assembly will then pass a resolution that will appoint some other agency, or group (probably back to the public works) or even one person to be charge. If they got rid of the last 14 words it might work.
I absolutely agree with you. I feel at least this is a start and hopefully an eye opener for the public.... If people will just become aware of open space land, etc...that is in their district and watch over it, than our combined efforts should ensure us that we will be able to continue to enjoy Southern MD as it was intended. If we do not start somewhere than the rural/agricultral districts that we now take for granted will soon become incorporated into residential/higher occupancy a little at a time.

And by the way I do work for a Developer, and I do know that its not just a pull out the checkbook/grease the palms of the local politians that allow things like this to happen....it's unconcerned citizens that sit back doing the complaining that Southern MD is becoming more and more like PG County all the while pushing aside anyone who does give a damn.
 
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willie

Well-Known Member
Makavide said:
So, we will vote on this amendment, it passes, the general assembly will then pass a resolution that will appoint some other agency, or group (probably back to the public works) or even one person to be charge. If they got rid of the last 14 words it might work.
Absolutely right! It is worthless.
 
R

residentofcre

Guest
Willie... question for you...

If the General Assembly is the only one that can allow the use of open space... how does that affect the LNG Pipeline?

Or does it affect it at all?????

Just curious about your opinion....

Thanks... Becky
 

willie

Well-Known Member
residentofcre said:
Willie... question for you...

If the General Assembly is the only one that can allow the use of open space... how does that affect the LNG Pipeline?

Or does it affect it at all?????

Just curious about your opinion....

Thanks... Becky
The General Assembly has already done their job. The new line will parallel the older line, correct? All this was hashed out years ago. The General Assembly is getting involved in the Sparrows Point LNG plant. Why?
 

FromTexas

This Space for Rent
I will vote for it just to bring up a roadblock to increased housing buildout. I could care less about the protected land. I just want less housing built so mine is worth more. :lol:
 

MMDad

Lem Putt
FromTexas said:
I will vote for it just to bring up a roadblock to increased housing buildout. I could care less about the protected land. I just want less housing built so mine is worth more. :lol:
:yay: :killingme It's great to hear somebody honest for once! I agree, my house is built, stop NOW! :lmao:
 

willie

Well-Known Member
My absentee ballot just came in. I voted for it even if it has a huge loophole, it's better than nothing.
 

Larry Gude

Strung Out
Here's my problem...

mygoldnhorse said:
Ballot Language:

Question 1 - Constitutional Amendment

Disposition of Park Lands

The Board of Public Works may not approve the sale, transfer, exchange, grant or other permanent disposition of any state-owned outdoor recreation, open space, conservation, preservation, forest, or parkland without the express approval of the General Assembly or of a committee that the General Assembly designates by statute, resolution or rule.

One of the BIGGEST problems we, the people, face in choosing our representatives is the creation of committees and boards and so on and so forth that are sold to us as these 'above board' solutions to sticky questions.

Sticky questions and the answers to them are precisely what we need to make our judgments when we vote. They are precisely the type things our public servants should have to decide, publicly. We can't elect or kick out some bi-partisan committee.

On the other hand, folks with specific interests, learn to focus in on these groups, out of the spotlight, to get what they want and no one ends up being responsible if it turns out to be a bad or smelly decision.

This isn't delegation in the interest of fairness, it is passing the buck. I want MORE accountability, not less.
 

FromTexas

This Space for Rent
willie said:
My absentee ballot just came in. I voted for it even if it has a huge loophole, it's better than nothing.

I did the same on my absentee but for the reason I stated above. :lol:
 

SEABREEZE 1957

My 401K is now a 201K
Thanks all...I just read my Official Specimen Ballot mailer today over breakfast. This is one of two I wasn't quite feeling warm and fuzzy about (the other is Question 4)...So far my inclination is to vote for Question One.....
 
B

Bruzilla

Guest
Gee whiz... another "I got mine, so go f-yourself" law in St. Mary's County. I would like to see a law that states "in addition to prohibiting the development of new homes this law will also require that the county sieze 40% of existing homes, demolish them, and return the property they were on to their former pristine state... all in the name of conserving St. Mary's rural character." Yeah... let's see who thinks preserving the county's rural character was such a vital thing then.

At the rate that house values are skyrocketing in St. Mary's county, and those prices are being met by people who work at high-paying jobs in Washington and Fairfax, who's going to be left to enjoy all the parks and farmlands that this law protects? Certainly not the young families that the area needs over the long term. They're all having to moev out of the area to find affordable housing.
 

mygoldnhorse

Cowgirl Up
FromTexas said:
I will vote for it just to bring up a roadblock to increased housing buildout. I could care less about the protected land. I just want less housing built so mine is worth more. :lol:
:coffee: So what you are saying is that you/your family never use protected land...via our State parks, Recreation Parks, etc. So if they were gone it would not be of concern :bigwhoop: to you? This I find hard to believe...but to each his own. I myself spend very little time within the confines of a house and I enjoy being outside. With so much building going on in Southern MD protecting these amenities I would think would be of the utmost concern to us all.
 

Oz

You're all F'in Mad...
This is a HORRIBLE ammendment that I will be voting AGAINST!

The current system worked. The Salem Tract was not sold to private developers. It would have been a good deal for St. Mary's County. Instead, it was blown all out of proportion for political purposes and has become an attempt to strip the Governor of more powers and give it to the Democrats in Annapolis. Ridiculous AND a bad idea!

What happens during the 9 months that the legislature is not in session to vote on such proposals?
 
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