Voter Fraud
- Thread starter Monello
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Of course there is voter fraud at all levels; less so with local, more with state, and most at federal.
I couldn't give you a percentage guess, but I believe it's enough to make a difference. You'd have to define "fraud", though: do you mean dead people voting, or is it fraud to truck in ignoramuses bribed with alcohol, cigarettes, and food?
I personally think that any time a vote is cast without the conscious effort and agreement of the actual voter, that is fraud. Coercive votes are also fraud, IMO, which brings the percentage of fraudulent votes up to around 99%.
I couldn't give you a percentage guess, but I believe it's enough to make a difference. You'd have to define "fraud", though: do you mean dead people voting, or is it fraud to truck in ignoramuses bribed with alcohol, cigarettes, and food?
I personally think that any time a vote is cast without the conscious effort and agreement of the actual voter, that is fraud. Coercive votes are also fraud, IMO, which brings the percentage of fraudulent votes up to around 99%.
mamatutu
mama to two
Of course, there is voter fraud because no system functions 100% perfectly. Allegations of voter fraud are thrown out there after many elections, and there are arguments from both sides. We will probably never know to what extent voter fraud happens. Not requiring voter id's will make it worse than ever, especially with so many illegals here now.
This is not on topic, but I just thought it was interesting how close the numbers are for 2004 and 2012, but a much greater difference in 2008.
2012 Election Results Map by State - Live Voting Updates - POLITICO.com
Obama 62,611,250
Romney 59,134,475
Diff 3,476,775
Bush 62,040,610
Kerry 59,028,444
Diff 3,012,166
Less than a half million diff (464,609)
Difference with Obama/McCain is 9,522,083. So, in two elections the numbers very similar, but in 2008 there is a 9 and half million difference; I would assume because more people got out to vote. Also, I would assume the more people that vote, the higher chance of voter fraud. I never compared the numbers before. But, obviously, people thought they would get hope and change, but after they found out the truth, the votes in 2012 came back down to being so similar to 2004.
This is not on topic, but I just thought it was interesting how close the numbers are for 2004 and 2012, but a much greater difference in 2008.
2012 Election Results Map by State - Live Voting Updates - POLITICO.com
Obama 62,611,250
Romney 59,134,475
Diff 3,476,775
Bush 62,040,610
Kerry 59,028,444
Diff 3,012,166
Less than a half million diff (464,609)
Difference with Obama/McCain is 9,522,083. So, in two elections the numbers very similar, but in 2008 there is a 9 and half million difference; I would assume because more people got out to vote. Also, I would assume the more people that vote, the higher chance of voter fraud. I never compared the numbers before. But, obviously, people thought they would get hope and change, but after they found out the truth, the votes in 2012 came back down to being so similar to 2004.