Waaah! Boss Wants Us To Actually Show Up To Work In Person! WAAAH.

black dog

black dog

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RoseRed said:
I thought I saw you in traffic this afternoon, but the Bernie stickers exonerated you. 😂
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What else would one put on the back of a Subaru Outback?
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22AcaciaAve

22AcaciaAve

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I would want to know what is driving his policy. If there is a good reason to expect people back in the office then get them back. But the idea that people need to be back in the office without any metrics to prove it is simply ridiculous. It is old time thinking. Why would you want a huge office footprint that pays electric bills, property tax bills, and maintenance costs if you can push all of that off on your employees that work from home?

This is 2025. Work can be done remotely as easily as it can be done on site. It is only the micro managers and control freaks that do not recognize this.
 
vraiblonde

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22AcaciaAve said:
I would want to know what is driving his policy. If there is a good reason to expect people back in the office then get them back. But the idea that people need to be back in the office without any metrics to prove it is simply ridiculous. It is old time thinking. Why would you want a huge office footprint that pays electric bills, property tax bills, and maintenance costs if you can push all of that off on your employees that work from home?

This is 2025. Work can be done remotely as easily as it can be done on site. It is only the micro managers and control freaks that do not recognize this.
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Most people can't work unsupervised, and it's difficult to get rid of nonperformers. Over the last 30 years I've had *two* employees who didn't need me to babysit them - they are a rare and cherished jewel.
 
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22AcaciaAve said:
I would want to know what is driving his policy. If there is a good reason to expect people back in the office then get them back.
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Lol, He knows full well most are and have been doing a great many things other than working. My guess is they have been doing less and less in terms of actual work as time went by.
 
Ken King

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22AcaciaAve said:
I would want to know what is driving his policy. If there is a good reason to expect people back in the office then get them back. But the idea that people need to be back in the office without any metrics to prove it is simply ridiculous. It is old time thinking. Why would you want a huge office footprint that pays electric bills, property tax bills, and maintenance costs if you can push all of that off on your employees that work from home?

This is 2025. Work can be done remotely as easily as it can be done on site. It is only the micro managers and control freaks that do not recognize this.
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Hell, its the DNC, with AI and all of the complicit media cohorts, why are employees needed at all?
 
22AcaciaAve

22AcaciaAve

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vraiblonde said:
Most people can't work unsupervised, and it's difficult to get rid of nonperformers. Over the last 30 years I've had *two* employees who didn't need me to babysit them - they are a rare and cherished jewel.
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I'm not sure I agree with that, but then I don't know your line of work. That might very well be true for your livelihood. I work in IT. It is very easy to work remotely, and very easy to supervise. You are given tasks to do, and problem tickets to solve. Are the tasks completed on time? Do the tickets get resolved? Are you available by IM within a reasonable time?

I'm not going to say people don't multi-task. They do. But all I care about is that they get their jobs done. If they do, not a problem. If they don't that is up to their supervisors to correct them.
 
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Czar

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22AcaciaAve said:
I'm not sure I agree with that, but then I don't know your line of work. That might very well be true for your livelihood. I work in IT. It is very easy to work remotely, and very easy to supervise. You are given tasks to do, and problem tickets to solve. Are the tasks completed on time? Do the tickets get resolved? Are you available by IM within a reasonable time?

I'm not going to say people don't multi-task. They do. But all I care about is that they get their jobs done. If they do, not a problem. If they don't that is up to their supervisors to correct them.
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The government supervisor is off playing a round. Maybe he will check email at the 19th, maybe not. Anyway, the people he manages are minorities, disability hire's.
 
stgislander

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Heard a story on the radio the other day where a guy was working 3 FT work-from-home jobs and none of the employers knew about the other jobs. Supposedly he was getting his work done to the satisfaction of his employers.
 
PeoplesElbow

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22AcaciaAve said:
I would want to know what is driving his policy. If there is a good reason to expect people back in the office then get them back. But the idea that people need to be back in the office without any metrics to prove it is simply ridiculous. It is old time thinking. Why would you want a huge office footprint that pays electric bills, property tax bills, and maintenance costs if you can push all of that off on your employees that work from home?

This is 2025. Work can be done remotely as easily as it can be done on site. It is only the micro managers and control freaks that do not recognize this.
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Many large office buildings are on 10+ year leases. People complain about the inertia of government, but I think it's simply an issue of scale, large cooperations have the exact same issues. Bean counters see a large lease in a mostly empty building and that raises huge red flags, the simple thing is to get people back in the office and then that lease is no longer wasted money.

Return to office is also a great way to get people to quit vs layoffs as the red flag of layoffs doesn't pop up.

My other half works in insurance and has never had an office, she interviewed remotely they mail her new computers etc, she has metrics she has to make, gets bonuses for surpassing them by certain amounts, bonuses for doing it so many months in a row. That's how you handle it, base pay isn't great but she makes almost double her base due to bonuses.
 
black dog

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PeoplesElbow said:
Many large office buildings are on 10+ year leases. People complain about the inertia of government, but I think it's simply an issue of scale, large cooperations have the exact same issues. Bean counters see a large lease in a mostly empty building and that raises huge red flags, the simple thing is to get people back in the office and then that lease is no longer wasted money.

Return to office is also a great way to get people to quit vs layoffs as the red flag of layoffs doesn't pop up.

My other half works in insurance and has never had an office, she interviewed remotely they mail her new computers etc, she has metrics she has to make, gets bonuses for surpassing them by certain amounts, bonuses for doing it so many months in a row. That's how you handle it, base pay isn't great but she makes almost double her base due to bonuses.
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I work from home now, checks religiously show up the 1st of the month and the 2nd wed of the month. It's awesome
 
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