Web design help

[vraiblonde]

Here's my problem:

I create a website that looks great at 800x600, but crappy at a higher monitor setting. So I tweak it to look good at the higher setting and it looks like crap at 800x600.

Is there any way to get past this, short of getting Congress to pass a law that everyone must have the same computer settings and software?

 

[RoseRed]

Originally posted by vraiblonde
Here's my problem:

I create a website that looks great at 800x600, but crappy at a higher monitor setting. So I tweak it to look good at the higher setting and it looks like crap at 800x600.

Is there any way to get past this, short of getting Congress to pass a law that everyone must have the same computer settings and software?

Shouldn't this be a poll? :shrug:

 

[designerxboi]

Re: Re: Web design help

Originally posted by RoseRed
Shouldn't this be a poll? :shrug:

I use frontpage to design my webpages and just copy over the html into the angelfire's system. I think it does all the adjusting automatically. Do you write the html yourself or use a program?


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Sorry Rose I meant to quote Vrai's question.

 

[tater]

Reboot.

 

[Tonio]

Vrai, I've been down that road, and I found that 800x600 was the only acceptable compromise.

I gave up long ago trying to make Web sites compliant with older browsers like Netscape 4. (NMCI sufferers, is Netscape 4 still the default version?) As long as it works with Internet Explorer 5+ and Netscape 7, you'll get probably 95% of everyone who views the site.

If you know any Javascript, I use the library on www.dhtmlcentral.com to make popup menus. Their code has an interface for just about every browser out there. At home I use Netscape 7, and feel it's a better browser than IE.

getting Congress to pass a law that everyone must have the same computer settings and software

That sounds like what Bill Gates would attempt. "Oh, our solutions are always the best! We want EVERYONE to use Windows and IE and Media Player and Office because they're the absolute super-duper peechy-keenest for every computer user."

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by designerxboi
Do you write the html yourself or use a program?

A little of both - I create in FP, then tweak by hand.

I'm just looking for a suggestion other than to create two separate sites for each res. Apparently there's a javascript out there that will automatically detect monitor settings and correct graphics and fonts to suit the setting. Maybe I'll try that.

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by Tonio
That sounds like what Bill Gates would attempt. "Oh, our solutions are always the best! We want EVERYONE to use Windows and IE and Media Player and Office because they're the absolute super-duper peechy-keenest for every computer user."

Well, he's got a point as far as I'm concerned. It's frustrating to try and make sites that look good at every monitor setting AND in each of the zillion browsers and versions out there.

 

[MikeyBash]

Are you using tables to format your page? If so, you should be using stylesheets instead.

The beauty of stylesheets is they can apply different settings depending on what browser the user is using. It's kinda tricky until you get the hang of it, but it saves time in the long run. The bottom line is you seperate the content of your pages from the rendering, or the way it is displayed.

Mike (bash@infront.net)

 

[Danzig]

Originally posted by MikeyBash
Are you using tables to format your page? If so, you should be using stylesheets instead.

The beauty of stylesheets is they can apply different settings depending on what browser the user is using. It's kinda tricky until you get the hang of it, but it saves time in the long run. The bottom line is you seperate the content of your pages from the rendering, or the way it is displayed.

Mike (bash@infront.net)

yea, what that dude said.

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by MikeyBash
Are you using tables to format your page? If so, you should be using stylesheets instead.

aHA! I knew there had to be a better way. Unfortunately I'm a stylesheet idiot so there's a new trick for me to learn and put in my bag. I don't design a lot of sites, normally I farm them out, but it will be nice to have the capability even if I don't use it very often.

Thanks!

 

[Tonio]

Originally posted by vraiblonde
Apparently there's a javascript out there that will automatically detect monitor settings and correct graphics and fonts to suit the setting. Maybe I'll try that.

Yes. I assume it's based on the width, which can be detected. I don't have the links handy, but look up anything that has to do with the DOM in Javascript.

 

[KoolStuf]

vraiblonde

I sent you a pm regarding this

 

[Oz]

Can't you set the table width of the web page to 800 pixels, and then select to have the table centered on the screen, and put your content within that table?

 

[vraiblonde]

Originally posted by Oz
Can't you set the table width of the web page to 800 pixels, and then select to have the table centered on the screen, and put your content within that table?

That's what I've got right now. It's your cousin, actually Check your PMs.

 

[happyappygirl]

Speaking of webdesigning

I'm thinking of starting some side stuff teaching folks how to build and or maintain their own sites...think there would be a need for that around here?
Can i ask that question here? I'm trying to figure out how i can eliminate the commute i make now.......

 

[Toxick]

Originally posted by vraiblonde
Is there any way to get past this, short of getting Congress to pass a law that everyone must have the same computer settings and software?

Can I see the website. I might be able to get a better idea of what the problem is if I could see it.

Is it online?

 

[lucaswebco]

One answer to the problem.
Use tables to format the page.
1. Set the table to 100%, so it can resize with the screen.
2. Set photos to align ="left" so the text can wrap around them and resize with the screen size.

Second Answer to the problem.
1. set your main format table to 770 pixels. Then if it goes to a larger screen size the extra space will show to the right And not change your original design.

Third answer
1. Get a book on CSS ( Cascading Style Sheets ) and control your site's fonts, links, eetc. with one file for the entire site. Changes are a snap.

 

[DeeCee]

A little of both - I create in FP, then tweak by hand.

I'm just looking for a suggestion other than to create two separate sites for each res. Apparently there's a javascript out there that will automatically detect monitor settings and correct graphics and fonts to suit the setting. Maybe I'll try that.

I know this is an OLD thread, but Vrai, are you still using FP or were you forced to switch to something else? My old versions of FP aren't compatible with the OS on my new PC, so i can't install much of my old software.

 

[vraiblonde]

I know this is an OLD thread, but Vrai, are you still using FP or were you forced to switch to something else? My old versions of FP aren't compatible with the OS on my new PC, so i can't install much of my old software.

Check your PMer.

 

[DeeCee]

Check your PMer.

Thx!