Weird eisodes

puggymom

puggymom

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The pug has been having these weird episodes lately. He has had about one a month for the past three months. I do not want to call the vet right now because there is nothing to see. These episodes last about 10-20 minutes or so then he is fine and back to normal. I just wanted to get some feedback on if anyone else has seen or dealt with anything like this.

The most recent one was last night. He was panting so heavily it woke both my husband and I. He sleeps in bed with us and I kind of nudged him to get him to get up and get a drink of water. He would not move and his body was doing this weird completely tensed up yet not moving almost like a paralysis at the same time. He seemed fully alert so I did not think he was having a seizure.

I picked him up and carried him out to his water bowl and just kind of sat with him in my lap. After about 5 minutes he started trying to make small movements and then a bit after that was walking around. He seemed almost 100% after about 10 minutes so I carried him back to bed. Thus far today he is still fine.

I guess I am not sure if this is a getting older (he turns 7 this month) back ache/spasm type thing or something more serious I should start keeping a record of.
 
hvp05

hvp05

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Generally speaking, it would make sense to me to keep a log of such events. There may be nothing see outwardly, but you never know what an X-ray, blood panel or other test might show. :shrug:
 
TurboK9

TurboK9

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hvp05 said:
Generally speaking, it would make sense to me to keep a log of such events. There may be nothing see outwardly, but you never know what an X-ray, blood panel or other test might show. :shrug:
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Also, be very detailed in how you study and document. Very subtle differences in how he 'behaves' etc during these episodes can aid a vet in determining the cause, whether the seizures are a cause for extreme concern, etc.
 
hvp05

hvp05

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Apparently, pugs have their own form of encephalitis, known as PDE.

Do these other signs match anything your dog has done?

Pug Dog Encephalitis: Commonly called PDE, Pug Dog Encephalitis is, as the name implies, unique to Pugs. Little if anything is known as to the cause of PDE, which is essentially an inflammation of the brain. PDE tends to affect young to middle aged Pugs and features seizures as its primary symptom. Lethargy or listlessness and loss of muscle coordination can precede the seizures. Accompanying seizures are several symptoms ranging from aggression to pacing in circles to the Pug pressing its head against objects such as walls and people. PDE appears to come in two forms: Slow Progressive and Rapidly Progressing. The Slow Progressive form features seizures that recur in a matter of days or weeks, with the Pug returning to normal after the seizures.
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cattitude

cattitude

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mAlice said:
cat, 10-20 minute long episodes sounds like a long time. Is that typical in dogs?
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In my experience, the actual "seizure" doesn't last that long..but the stiffness..panting, etc. can be seen that long after the episode...it's more of a confused state where they are unable to walk and seem extremely exhausted, panting, drooling..but they are aware of their surroundings.
 
mAlice

mAlice

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cattitude said:
In my experience, the actual "seizure" doesn't last that long..but the stiffness..panting, etc. can be seen that long after the episode...it's more of a confused state where they are unable to walk and seem extremely exhausted, panting, drooling..but they are aware of their surroundings.
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Okay. I know in humans, if a seizure last more than 4 or 5 minutes, there's a risk of brain damage due to oxygen deprivation, and the stiffness ends when the seizure ends.
 
puggymom

puggymom

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hvp05 said:
Apparently, pugs have their own form of encephalitis, known as PDE.

Do these other signs match anything your dog has done?
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I did know about that. It was actually the first thing I looked up this morning but I disregarded it as I was assuming they were not seizures at the time. Now that they could be the aftereffects of one I am going to call the vet and see what they say. He has been doing the head pressing thing but he has always done something like that off and on when his ears itch and they need this medicine drops to clean them out.



Thanks everyone for the quick responses!!
 
Roman

Roman

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seizure

puggymom said:
I did know about that. It was actually the first thing I looked up this morning but I disregarded it as I was assuming they were not seizures at the time. Now that they could be the aftereffects of one I am going to call the vet and see what they say. He has been doing the head pressing thing but he has always done something like that off and on when his ears itch and they need this medicine drops to clean them out.



Thanks everyone for the quick responses!!
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No animal nessisarily goes in to "fits", to be having a seizure. There are all types of different seizures, depending on which part of the brain it is affecting. It sounds like the Pug Baby is seizing, and should be taken to the Vet to get on some meds that prevent him/her from having a more severe seizure in the future. My dog had epilepsy, and was on low-dose phenobarbitol for it, and she did fine. The medicine back then, was not that expensive either.
 
cattitude

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
Roman said:
No animal nessisarily goes in to "fits", to be having a seizure. There are all types of different seizures, depending on which part of the brain it is affecting. It sounds like the Pug Baby is seizing, and should be taken to the Vet to get on some meds that prevent him/her from having a more severe seizure in the future. My dog had epilepsy, and was on low-dose phenobarbitol for it, and she did fine. The medicine back then, was not that expensive either.
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Just a note...not all dogs need to be on meds for epilepsy/seizures. There can be environmental, food reasons for the seizures.
 
puggymom

puggymom

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We are home from the vet. The vet did not think it was seizures. That being said I do not really have a diagnosis right now as he was totally healthy and himself in there tonight. Right now we are going on this stemming from a herniated disc he had over two years ago that is either aggravated again or another disc is starting to act up possibly. I am just going to keep an eye on it for now.
 
Roman

Roman

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Good to hear

puggymom said:
We are home from the vet. The vet did not think it was seizures. That being said I do not really have a diagnosis right now as he was totally healthy and himself in there tonight. Right now we are going on this stemming from a herniated disc he had over two years ago that is either aggravated again or another disc is starting to act up possibly. I am just going to keep an eye on it for now.
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I am happy to hear that it probably is NOT seizures. Thanks for the update. I hope that if it is the disk, something can be done about it. Well wishes to the Puggie!!
 
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