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"No, this isn't Socialism! It's just the death of capitalism!"
awpitt
Main Streeter
I just found the observations that were made to be interesting and true. I borrowed it from one of my right-wig Navy buddies after he posted it on FB.
Interestingly enough...I found most of them to be flawed, skewed or bogus. Except for the last paragraph.
After Michael Dell succeeded so well with his business model limiting excess product in the supply chain it has been incorporated across all businesses in the country. The problem is the model doesn't allow for extreme purchases, such as tp. There is plenty of tp being produced, but if we ship nothing but tp we run out of other products on the shelves.
Exactly.
This is a once in a lifetime, global event. I doubt any company had a contingency plan for a world wide pandemic. I guess now some will.
Louise
Well-Known Member
Great reply.
WingsOfGold
Well-Known Member
I just begrudgingly got my first smartphone today for old farts a Jitterbug 2, having a hard time setting it up, error code 2. She thinks we need to get in range of a regular cell tower instead of just using internet. Before everybody dies any suggestions? Damn shame my almost new flip phone which I barely can use won't work off the internet. 
Toxick
Splat
What you are seeing is one of the wealthiest, geographically advantaged productive capitalist societies in the world flounder and fail at its most basic test. Taking care of its people.
I was under the impression that a capitalist society isn't about "taking care of its people". It's about getting the goddam hell out of the ****ing way so the people can take care of themselves.
And if I'm being honest, from what I can see, the government did not facilitate that. At all. Indeed, it completely ****ing knee-capped it from the get-go and literally made it illegal for people to take care of themselves.
So basically, that entire diatribe is a grotesquely loquacious screed suggesting that "A capitalist society failed at a sick parody of socialism".
It also (as usual) conflates Corporatism and Capitalism. Something most socialists do without even thinking about it, or seeing why that's a steaming heap of disgusting feces.
I was under the impression that a capitalist society isn't about "taking care of its people". It's about getting the goddam hell out of the ****ing way so the people can take care of themselves.
And if I'm being honest, from what I can see, the government did not facilitate that. At all. Indeed, it completely ****ing knee-capped it from the get-go and literally made it illegal for people to take care of themselves.
So basically, that entire diatribe is a grotesquely loquacious screed suggesting that "A capitalist society failed at a sick parody of socialism".
It also (as usual) conflates Corporatism and Capitalism. Something most socialists do without even thinking about it, or seeing why that's a steaming heap of disgusting feces.
Louise
Well-Known Member
I knew you would know. Great post as usual. Stay well in this political pandemic.
Scat
Well-Known Member
Villification of the media?
Bonehead
Well-Known Member
Let's hope so. I seriously doubt it will be the only one.
SamSpade
Well-Known Member
I guess I knew it was bull when it postulated that the basic test was to take care of its people. It absolutely, positively is NOT.
To the best of MY understanding - that's what socialism purports to do, and aims to do by placing government in control of taking care of people.
What a government is supposed to do foremost is to PROTECT its people and their freedoms and rights. It's why we call socialism a "nanny state". It aims to "take care" of the people, infantilizing them and keeping them dependent on the government. It is socialism when it violates those freedoms in order to "take care" of them.
And of course - punishing them when they refuse to follow. I find it amusing that when protesters were observed to not be wearing masks or observing "social distancing" the media were aghast. What did you expect? THAT is what they're protesting. That would be like the Tea Party in Boston paying up their taxes BEFORE they got on the boats.
It's what parents do to their children while they are small - but our society is based on protecting freedoms, which means we do as we choose, within the law - a law WE AGREE on. We're self governing. That's the point. People in socialist societies - especially communism - will actually defend actions by the state that are awful - because "it's for the good of everyone".
Because they are NOT governing themselves. They've become serfs and they have benevolent masters. Or so they hope.
To the best of MY understanding - that's what socialism purports to do, and aims to do by placing government in control of taking care of people.
What a government is supposed to do foremost is to PROTECT its people and their freedoms and rights. It's why we call socialism a "nanny state". It aims to "take care" of the people, infantilizing them and keeping them dependent on the government. It is socialism when it violates those freedoms in order to "take care" of them.
And of course - punishing them when they refuse to follow. I find it amusing that when protesters were observed to not be wearing masks or observing "social distancing" the media were aghast. What did you expect? THAT is what they're protesting. That would be like the Tea Party in Boston paying up their taxes BEFORE they got on the boats.
It's what parents do to their children while they are small - but our society is based on protecting freedoms, which means we do as we choose, within the law - a law WE AGREE on. We're self governing. That's the point. People in socialist societies - especially communism - will actually defend actions by the state that are awful - because "it's for the good of everyone".
Because they are NOT governing themselves. They've become serfs and they have benevolent masters. Or so they hope.
PsyOps
Pixelated
A distinction without a difference.
PsyOps
Pixelated
This isn't the first global pandemic we've seen; but it is the first where governments came in and controlled our businesses and lives over it. I really fail to see what's different about this "pandemic".
Louise
Well-Known Member
Awesome post! Right on! Thank you for your thoughts. Our family feels the same way. It puts a whole new meaning to social distancing. And, conspiracy theories can be real. Welcome to America. And, I want to add that is truly concerning to see the govs, mayors, etal, power grabs. Our situation in the USA has been on going for 60+ years, and now it is here. One thing I never knew was what a dictator Woodrow Wilson was, and that Jill Biden wrote a book about Edith. Hmmm...
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