Well well well, if it isnt the consequences of your own actions.

Burnthings

Burnthings

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Dumb Dog said:
ad ho·mi·nem
/ˌad ˈhämənəm/
adjective
1.
(of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
"vicious ad hominem attacks"
adverb
1.
in a way that is directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
"these points come from some of our best information sources, who realize they'll be attacked ad hominem"
2.
in a way that relates to or is associated with a particular person.
"the office was created ad hominem for Fenton"


It’s what you asshats do when you don’t have a clue
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They weren't making a point, it was just a case of their dementia flaring up and they somehow babbled some words into a textbox.
 
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Sapidus

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This_person said:
Because, unless you believe that the reason for being upset with people who clearly hate the United States is their race vice their political views, there's no reason to conflate the race with the political views.

Are you suggesting all foreign born Muslims hate the United States because they're foreign born and Muslim? It's the only way for your point to be valid, and it's easily shown to be YOUR view, not his.
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No. That is what you, Trump and the gop are trying to convince everyone of
 
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Sapidus

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This_person said:
Where's the evidence that race (is Muslim a race now??) has anything to do with the criticism of what's been said by the Representative?
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It’s just a coincidence he has now attacked Obama and claimed he was a Muslim non citizen and he is bringing up similar issues about one of only two Muslim members of congress

If it walks like a racist and talks like a racist ...
 
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Bird Dog said:
Not true. I don’t care if you’re a Lilywhite New England blue blood, if you spew hatred of the USA gtfo.......
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So Trump should leave for suggesting America is not great?

And for criticizing Obama’s policies and the state of our country for years?
 
Midnightrider

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Bird Dog said:
Not true. I don’t care if you’re a Lilywhite New England blue blood, if you spew hatred of the USA gtfo.......
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Care to show where they said they hate this country?

It’s sad that both extremes can’t see that the other is working out of the same love of the country. They just love different parts and see the status quo changing in a different way. I don’t agree with either extreme but I understand that they both generally love this country, they just want to fix the imperfections.
 
itsbob

itsbob

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So you can't provide the racist quote? Good to know.

Keep pushing the lies. You're no better then Ilhan and Ocasio.
 
This_person

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Sapidus said:
It’s just a coincidence he has now attacked Obama and claimed he was a Muslim non citizen and he is bringing up similar issues about one of only two Muslim members of congress

If it walks like a racist and talks like a racist ...
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...it's a baseless accusation!
 
PsyOps

PsyOps

Pixelated
itsbob said:
Trump played these idiots HARD.. and they're too stupid to realize it..

Forced the democrats to run to the defense of these 4 douchebags and stole Pelosi's spotlight of calling them out.. Pelosi went from insulting and calling them out on Tuesday to defending them and standing up for them on Wednesday on the House floor..

For an idiot he sure plays these geniuses like a fiddle.
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There's no doubt in my mind Trump's intent was to play Pelosi and her ilk to get behind the Gang of 4 Year Olds. But, he ended up having to denounce his own words through the chanters. This looks bad on him.

What's more bothersome to me is how those criticizing Trump over his words, give a pass to this Gang of 4 Year Olds when they have made some really egregious comments towards Trump, towards those who serve to protect this country, and this country. For those who disagree with me, do I need to post their deplorable comments. These socialists are the most unAmerican people I've seen in my life; the media and the congressional left are silent.
 
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PsyOps said:
There's no doubt in my mind Trump's intent was to play Pelosi and her ilk to get behind the Gang of 4 Year Olds. But, he ended up having to denounce his own words through the chanters. This looks bad on him.

What's more bothersome to me is how those criticizing Trump over his words, give a pass to this Gang of 4 Year Olds when they have made some really egregious comments towards Trump, towards those who serve to protect this country, and this country. For those who disagree with me, do I need to post their deplorable comments. These socialists are the most unAmerican people I've seen in my life; the media and the congressional left are silent.
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When did wanting healthcare, education , a living wage and equality for all become "socialism" and something to be sacred of?

What party wouldn't want all citizens to have those things to improve our country? What part of that is not "Making America great again"?
 
Burnthings

Burnthings

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PsyOps said:
There's no doubt in my mind Trump's intent was to play Pelosi and her ilk to get behind the Gang of 4 Year Olds. But, he ended up having to denounce his own words through the chanters. This looks bad on him.

What's more bothersome to me is how those criticizing Trump over his words, give a pass to this Gang of 4 Year Olds when they have made some really egregious comments towards Trump, towards those who serve to protect this country, and this country. For those who disagree with me, do I need to post their deplorable comments. These socialists are the most unAmerican people I've seen in my life; the media and the congressional left are silent.
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Its laughable that you bring up the people who serve in our military which is a socialist program, yet demonize socialism in the same breath. Please educate yourself you dumb backwater knuckledragger.
 
PsyOps

PsyOps

Pixelated
Midnightrider said:
Now that’s funny. You Trumpers just keep ignoring reality and carry on
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Reality:

Trump responds to being falsely accused of collusion - you people get outraged with Trump
Trump responds to being accused of obstruction - you people get outraged with Trump
Trump responds to being called a Nazi - you people get outraged at Trump
Trump responds to be accused of being a criminal when he's committed no crime - you people get outraged at Trump
Trump responds to being called a motherf###er - you people get outraged at Trump
Trump responds to anti-Semitism from a member of congress - you people get outraged at Trump

When does a person get to say "enough is enough"? Where is your reality regarding the false and inflammatory comments against Trump?
 
Yooper

Yooper

Up. Identified. Lase. Fire. On the way.
Midnightrider said:
(a) It’s sad that both extremes can’t see that the other is working out of the same love of the country. They just love different parts and see the status quo changing in a different way. I don’t agree with either extreme but I understand that they both generally love this country, (b) they just want to fix the imperfections.
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(a) I would agree in the main, but I really think - from all we're seeing - this is not the case for the "extremes."

(b) I would like to agree, but... The problem is that previously it was "live and let live" (I'm all for), but now it's "you are the imperfection" and you must either conform or be "eliminated" (socially, financially, literally, etc.). We probably won't agree on this, but it's my sense one side of the political discussion is doing far more of the "you are the imperfection and need to be..." than the other.

Thanks for the post.

--- End of line (MCP)
 
Midnightrider

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PsyOps said:
Reality:

Trump responds to being falsely accused of collusion - you people get outraged with Trump
Trump responds to being accused of obstruction - you people get outraged with Trump
Trump responds to being called a Nazi - you people get outraged at Trump
Trump responds to be accused of being a criminal when he's committed no crime - you people get outraged at Trump
Trump responds to being called a motherf###er - you people get outraged at Trump
Trump responds to anti-Semitism from a member of congress - you people get outraged at Trump

When does a person get to say "enough is enough"? Where is your reality regarding the false and inflammatory comments against Trump?
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i don’t know who ‘you people’ are supposed to be, but I don’t get outraged about much. Besides you only listed one accusation you label as false.

However, in this case the reality is that he said something stupid that can reasonably be considered xenophobic. Now his supporters are chanting his sentiment at his rallies while trump is pretending he has no idea It started with him. Just to be clear, ‘go back where you came from’ has been a reoccurring motto for racists and bigots in this country.

Again, I have no love to lose for any of the 4. I don’t get too outraged by their statements because the public will judge them at the polls. If the public re-elected them, well that’s part of our system too.
 
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