Do you have some info to add or do you just not agree with his assessment? I get tired of the constant bumping, but I'd really like to see the outcome. (preferably with cre sinking like a rock, but that's just me)
What does POACRE and The SOPRANO's have in common?
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OmyGawd
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No one has anything new, simply because there isn't anything new. He can't get a judge, no one seems to be listening and answers on both sides are few and far between. Bumping doesn't change anything except to inflate the views.
Does anyone really read the bumps anymore?????
How many moronic statements can you pack in to one paragraph?
1) "He can't get a Judge"
He (I) is not in command of the scheduling orders. All the local Judges have recused themselves, probably for good reason. Besides, this is not unusually long for this kind of case. In the history of the case, all my motions have been reserved by the judges, all the County and POACRE motions to dismiss or for summary judgment in their favor have been denied. I know that really means nothing toward the final decision, but I have the Court's attention, no doubt. I also have the documented evidence which is available to anyone that requests it. Most (not all) of the core evidence is on Information on POACRE- Chesapeake Ranch Estates Community- POACRE Covenant Brief.
2) "No one seems to be listening"
You may be correct here in that you are listening and you are "no one". Nearly 3000 hits in 2 weeks and growing. Up 100 thread subscribers in one week. I think people are listening. Do they get it? Maybe not. Are they hopeful I will prevail? Absolutely yes. Hope is gaining ground.
3) Does anyone really read the bumps anymore?????
See 2) above. If you are too dumb to ignore the bump after you've read it, that's not my problem. The bumps are done to keep the message at the end of the thread for any new readers. Saves them the time of reading the entire thread to get the message.
Seeing as how I'm down to only 2 detractors, it seems as if the general public is plenty understanding of the issue, and in general agreement with me.
Now, if you have a question, I'd be glad to answer it. If you want to challenge any part of the argument, I'd be glad to respond. But, if all you can come up with is personal criticism and name calling, I've won and you know it.
I have received several questions asking for clarifications. I have bundled the responses in a paper attached to this post. I hope it answers the questions I've received.
If not, you can post a question or PM me.
I will continue to bump this message and this attachment for new readers.
http://forums.somd.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=79300&stc=1&d=1292770387
If not, you can post a question or PM me.
I will continue to bump this message and this attachment for new readers.
http://forums.somd.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=79300&stc=1&d=1292770387
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n0n1m0us3
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Why are you trying to shut him up? Obviously yes people are listening and paying attention because we are participating in this thread, there are surely several more silent observers. If you aren't interested in the thread and don't want to read it, don't click on it. Seems pretty simple.
OmyGawd
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OmyGawd
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Ok why can't you get a trial date or a judge to oversee the case?
Why does it seem to just spin in place? You may have the courts attention but it still seems to stand still, not go forward.
Just because there are people who may not believe doesn't give you the right to denigrate them. And it doesn't mean they agree with your point of view either they just choose to be silent. And what names did I call you? or have you decided that if someone who may not agree with you that they are simply name calling? Sheesh that sounds a lot like the kettle making the call to the pot.
Good luck. I hope you and your lone supporter are happy now.
n0n1m0us3
why so serious
Please point out where I denigrated you.
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And if you want to know how many times you have called me names in your posts, you need to take count of them yourself. Its not my problem.
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OmyGawd
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If you say so. When you actually articulate what your objectives are by bringing this suit, maybe I'll listen. I've read your arguments and all the papers but there is no clear objective other than to say the Covenants and such are illegal and void. I believe this has been asked before (by other moronic posters) but what do you hope to accomplish? Maybe there are those who care who have no idea what your goals are.
This is the kind of question that deserves denigration, but I will withhold for now.
How in the world can you question the PRIMARY objective for wanting to get rid of this system? The objective is to de-fund POACRE, and here are the top ten reasons :
(Top 10)
10) Was put in place by fraud and deception
9) Is used by some as a power station to advance their personal agendas with impunity.
8) Enslaves nearly 5000 property owners to an often time whimsical, arbitrary, and capricious Board of amateur despots.
7) Arbitrarily enforces its rules and is generally unaccountable for its enforcement actions.
6) Doesn't follow its own bylaws
5) Doesn't abide by its own covenants
4) Creates and enforces rules,regulations, and P&P Memos that it has no authority to create in the first place (would somebody just please read the bylaws?).
3) Partners with a corrupt County system to enslave the property owners in a constitutionallyabhorrent system of taxation.
2) Allows officers of the Board to act in ways that cause great and personal harm on individual members of this community and others with general impunity by arbitrarily dragging them into court.
AND THE NUMBER ONE REASON FOR THE PRIME OBJECTIVE.....
1) ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO
Once the system is defunded and de-authorized to run rough-shod over the lives of the property owners then, and only then, can we come together to rebuild a system of governance that is fair, equitable, transparent, constitutionally responsible, and accountable for its actions. No system is perfect, but there are few less perfect than what we have now.
POACRE cannot and will not die from being de-funded and de-covenanted. It will still be the corporation formed to hold the common properties in trust. But, it will be devolved into a property trust corporation, with no other power or authority than it may be given by the property owners.
At the risk of offending all of the present and past POACRE Boards, not all of whom deserve the offense, I've always maintained that it would take an insane, or totally naive, or at least personality defective person to want to serve on the POACRE Board. And because we have had so many obviously warped personalities in control of the POACRE Board over the years I think my opinion becomes axiomatic.
And when we do occasionally get someone with some common sense to serve on the Board, they are swiftly attacked and beaten by those that wrap themselves in the protective shroud of the false covenants and bad bylaws.
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It never fails to amaze me how the English language is buggered up. I am using the term "enslave" as a transitive verb which means "to subjogate". But torture and forced labor aren't far off the mark either where it is tortuous to make someone pay extortion money. And where that part of the fruit of their labors are confiscated by the extortionist, that labor is forced.
I guess you would find the Maryland Declaration of Rights also offensive:
Article 6. Legislators and executive officers are trustees of public; right of people to reform or establish new government.
"That all persons invested with the Legislative or Executive powers of Government are the Trustees of the Public, and, as such, accountable for their conduct: Wherefore, whenever the ends of Government are perverted, and public liberty manifestly endangered, and all other means of redress are ineffectual, the People may, and of right ought, to reform the old, or establish a new Government; the doctrine of non-resistance against arbitrary power and oppression is absurd, slavish and destructive of the good and happiness of mankind. "
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OmyGawd
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When does the revolution start?
One final question: Why should we listen to some one who no longer belongs to the home owners association (or as he calls it the masters (see post above as he thinks we are all slaves)? After all you are the one who resigned from the membership.
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Why should someone not at least look at the language in the official documents and learn what they mean? Oh yeah, I forgot....POACRE never made those documents available for reading.
Why should someone belong to a private corporation that commits extortion so that they are an accessory?
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