Whelp, there you go, he admits it. I'm ready to hear the cult hot take.

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
You bots, I swear. You don't give a crap why Biden was being investigated (hint: it was corruption and using his position to get his kid a big payday).

So now asking a foreign entity to develop dirt on a candidate for POTUS is ok?
Let's boil this down -

Joe's son Hunter was a director at Burisma Holdings.
Ukraine's prosecutor general Viktor Shokin was investigating corruption at Burisma.
VP Joe Biden told Ukraine to fire Shokin - or not get a billion in aid.

Even on the face of it - it looks pretty corrupt, especially when you hear Joe brag about putting the screws to them -
not to mention that what the heck are WE doing telling another country how to investigate corruption within its borders
(unless - it's because of Hunter. No really. Why do we interfere?).

What Joe did amounts to a bribe to a foreign government not to investigate a company that affects his son.

TRUMP says - no - investigate the BRIBE. Because it's a crime.

Are they the same? One is saying screw you, lay off my son. The other is screw you, investigate the bribe.

I’m all for investigating it, but why wouldn’t trump have the FBI or DOJ investigate it? Maybe have the IG look into it?
BTW, it sounds like shokin was a corrupt POS that the US and EU agreed needed to go. Biden obviously had a conflict of interest, but I don’t see how Ukraine investigating hunter address that.
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
So now asking a foreign entity to develop dirt on a candidate for POTUS is ok?


I’m all for investigating it, but why wouldn’t trump have the FBI or DOJ investigate it? Maybe have the IG look into it?
BTW, it sounds like shokin was a corrupt POS that the US and EU agreed needed to go. Biden obviously had a conflict of interest, but I don’t see how Ukraine investigating hunter address that.


Just as an experiment Viralbrood replace Trump with Obama and Biden Jr with Trump

That should stoke your outrage and get you in the right frame of mind
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
So now asking a foreign entity to develop dirt on a candidate for POTUS is ok?


I’m all for investigating it, but why wouldn’t trump have the FBI or DOJ investigate it? Maybe have the IG look into it?
BTW, it sounds like shokin was a corrupt POS that the US and EU agreed needed to go. Biden obviously had a conflict of interest, but I don’t see how Ukraine investigating hunter address that.
The crime is Ukrainian.
 

transporter

Well-Known Member
That was nice of Barry to have everything positive kick in right around the time that Trump got elected. I guess dumping all of obama's regulations on business didn't have anything to do with a better economic outlook.

The only thing obama increased was racial strife nationwide.

Which regulation(s)? Name one or those that change the trajectory of the economy? (Note: before you answer, do you understand that economic growth today is no different than under our last President?)

Answer: you can't because there aren't any.

Bill Clinton could also thanks Bush 41 as the economy had turned upwards by the time Clinton was elected and sworn in.
 

Monello

Smarter than the average bear
PREMO Member
based on your racist posts

When you have no intelligent reply, always revert to calling someone a racist. obama sucked as a president because he made poor decisions. The fact that he was half black and half white didn't figure into the equation.
 

Monello

Smarter than the average bear
PREMO Member
Which regulation(s)? Name one or those that change the trajectory of the economy? (Note: before you answer, do you understand that economic growth today is no different than under our last President?)

Answer: you can't because there aren't any.

Bill Clinton could also thanks Bush 41 as the economy had turned upwards by the time Clinton was elected and sworn in.
Pick one.

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gemma_rae

Well-Known Member
I get a good laugh when Stupidus forgets to take its Effexor. All its MPD's come out and have conversations among itself.:lol:
 

PsyOps

Pixelated
So now asking a foreign entity to develop dirt on a candidate for POTUS is ok?

Was what Biden did - blackmailing the Ukraine government with American tax dollars to fire an investigator who was investigating corruption Biden's son was involved in - illegal?
 

Midnightrider

Well-Known Member
Was what Biden did - blackmailing the Ukraine government with American tax dollars to fire an investigator who was investigating corruption Biden's son was involved in - illegal?
Could be, why isn’t trmps DOJ investigating it? All of the evidence against uncle joe is publicly available including him bragging about using the loan guarantees to get shorkin fired.

Because the US DOJ has no authority in a foreign country. How many times do you need to be told? Pick a number and let's get it out of the way.
The allegation is that Biden bribed or blackmailed Ukraine to protect his son. That is a crime and one the DOJ has jurisdiction over.
 
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