When charity backfires

Monello

Smarter than the average bear
PREMO Member
I know most folks here won't watch this video. I don't watch many videos posted by other people due to length. But his is an interesting topic presented in what has to be the most balanced and logic way.



To recap the video:

There are over 10,000 charitable organizations assisting Haiti. Yet conditions never improve. NGOs outspend the Haitian government 3 to 1. Those charities keep Haiti a failed state.

Helping hands harm millions of people.

Money gets embezzled by charity members.

Government assistance programs are full of fraud. Welfare fraud for 2024 = $66B, 2023 SNAP mismanagement = $10B.

1 charity raised $45M & $35M went towards fund raising. Most of the rest went to salaries. $127,000 was spent on the actual charity cause.

Charities don't measure results, they measure output. Like number of meals served to homeless. They think when the numbers increase, they are doing something good. When it would be better if over time they had a smaller customer base.

Clothing donations to Africa ruined that continents' textile industry. Who would buy clothes when NGOs give them away for free?

Locals don't problem solve because someone is always coming along with a solution.

60% of US working household use food banks. (Much higher than I would have thought) and it is now ingrained in some just like going to a regular grocery store is for others.

Habitat for Humanity uses volunteer labor. Often taking work from tradesmen and laborers. The volunteer effort is marginal at best due to lack of skills but not lack of wanting to help.

Most missionary money goes towards flights and lodging. Some of the flight tickets are upwards of $2,000 each. Money that could be used by the people they intend to help.

When folks are assisted year after year they tend to wait and not act. Because help will arrive. Learned dependency. I think you see this with generational welfare in the US.

The 5 steps of dependency. Gratitude, anticipation, expectation, entitlement & finally dependency. The inability or will to function.


One of the best ways to destroy self worth is subsidizing the idleness of able-bodied people.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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To recap the video:

I appreciate that. :yay:

I think many people want to *feel* like they're helping rather than actually help. "Look, hungry person! I fished for you!" This is why I don't volunteer anymore - because I typically hate the other volunteers.

It's like those grifter ads they have on Fox where that annoying woman (and now an annoying man) show starving Israeli Holocaust survivors or whatever living in squalor, then try to guilt you into sending them money. They switched up to starving Ukrainians and now there's starving something else, whatever will get you to give them dough. Now, that annoying woman and man and the camera guys and whoever else aren't working for free, and :30 spots on Fox are expensive, even for ROS. So there's a sht TON of money being spent producing these commercials - money that could be feeding starving people.

Also, if Holocaust survivors are starving in Israel, why isn't the Israeli government doing something about that? Not to mention, how many freaking Holocaust survivors could possibly be living today? Let's say they were an infant at the end of the Holocaust - that would make them 81yo. Well-fed people can make it to 81 easy, but someone with no food or housing or running water or medical care? Yeah, not likely.

But their advertising must work and people must be sending them money, thinking they're helping rather than *actually* helping. Here's where the money really goes:


It's disappointing that Fox runs these scam charity ads, and even more disappointing that Mike Huckabee has starred in some of them.
 

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
Not to mention, how many freaking Holocaust survivors could possibly be living today? Let's say they were an infant at the end of the Holocaust - that would make them 81yo. Well-fed people can make it to 81 easy, but someone with no food or housing or running water or medical care? Yeah, not likely.

:yay:
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
From Google:

How much does Yael Eckstein get paid?

AI Overview

Yael Eckstein, President and CEO of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews (IFCJ), received a total compensation of approximately $931,098 in 2024, according to MinistryWatch data. She has been one of the highest-compensated nonprofit executives, with total compensation reported around $769,000 to $931,000 in recent years.
Key details regarding Yael Eckstein's compensation include:
  • Compensation Trend: As CEO, her compensation was reported at $769,244 in 2023 (based on Paddock Post for the 2023 tax year) and rose to $931,098 in 2024, according to Paddock Post and MinistryWatch.
  • Total Compensation (2018–2024):Reports indicate she received approximately $4 million in total compensation from 2018 to 2024.
  • Benefits: The IFCJ reported paying for her first-class or charter travel and providing tax indemnification.
  • Context: The organization, with over $100 million in revenue, underwent a 2023 salary audit.
 

Monello

Smarter than the average bear
PREMO Member
From Google:

How much does Yael Eckstein get paid?

AI Overview

Yael Eckstein, President and CEO of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews (IFCJ), received a total compensation of approximately $931,098 in 2024, according to MinistryWatch data. She has been one of the highest-compensated nonprofit executives, with total compensation reported around $769,000 to $931,000 in recent years.
Key details regarding Yael Eckstein's compensation include:
  • Compensation Trend: As CEO, her compensation was reported at $769,244 in 2023 (based on Paddock Post for the 2023 tax year) and rose to $931,098 in 2024, according to Paddock Post and MinistryWatch.
  • Total Compensation (2018–2024):Reports indicate she received approximately $4 million in total compensation from 2018 to 2024.
  • Benefits: The IFCJ reported paying for her first-class or charter travel and providing tax indemnification.
  • Context: The organization, with over $100 million in revenue, underwent a 2023 salary audit.
The video doesn't focus that much on compensation. It does a deeper dive into the psychology of both the giver & the getters. How the help actually creates conditions where people later are unable to thrive without some sort of intervention. There are entire African nations like that.

And all the things that were implemented in the mid 1960s to get people out of poverty are the exact same thing the video points out as being harmful. Harmful being defined as the assistance, while helpful in the short term, creates conditions that are damaging to the future prosperity of the recipient. What the video points out, without saying the words, is that some democrat policies end up making people pets of the government. Just enough aid to keep them fat & lazy. But it will have to continue until they reach the grave. That isn't charity, it's dependency.

Around the same time Haiti had a massive earthquake while Japan had an enormous tsunami. The Japanese immediately started digging themselves out. The Haitians sat around waiting for help to arrive. Because that is what they were taught.

I hope you will invest a few minutes and watch the entire video. Mid video he plugs a company but you can right arrow past that.
 

stgislander

Well-Known Member
PREMO Member
This reminds me of a widely read book titled "When Helping Hurts: How to Alleviate Poverty Without Hurting the Poor... and Yourself" that discusses how Churches and Charities many times makes the problem worse. My church in SMC had a small group study on it.

 

Monello

Smarter than the average bear
PREMO Member
A few Trillion to Africa in the last 25 years,
Its done absolutely nothing.
I disagree. All that aid has helped increase Africa's population.

Live Aid sent funds to Ethiopia because kids were starving.

Ethiopia's population: 1985 = 42M, 2025 = 135M. The rest of Africa shows the same numbers.

FWIW, they still can't feed themselves and now they have a whole lot more mouths to take care of. What would have been more humane is anyone accepting food had to be sterilized. Keep the population stable instead of have it increase over 3 times in the next 40 years.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
The video doesn't focus that much on compensation. It does a deeper dive into the psychology of both the giver & the getters.

That was the point (before I went off on a tangent) : I think many people want to *feel* like they're helping rather than actually help.
 

Czar

Well-Known Member
I appreciate that. :yay:

I think many people want to *feel* like they're helping rather than actually help. "Look, hungry person! I fished for you!" This is why I don't volunteer anymore - because I typically hate the other volunteers.

It's like those grifter ads they have on Fox where that annoying woman (and now an annoying man) show starving Israeli Holocaust survivors or whatever living in squalor, then try to guilt you into sending them money. They switched up to starving Ukrainians and now there's starving something else, whatever will get you to give them dough. Now, that annoying woman and man and the camera guys and whoever else aren't working for free, and :30 spots on Fox are expensive, even for ROS. So there's a sht TON of money being spent producing these commercials - money that could be feeding starving people.

Also, if Holocaust survivors are starving in Israel, why isn't the Israeli government doing something about that? Not to mention, how many freaking Holocaust survivors could possibly be living today? Let's say they were an infant at the end of the Holocaust - that would make them 81yo. Well-fed people can make it to 81 easy, but someone with no food or housing or running water or medical care? Yeah, not likely.

But their advertising must work and people must be sending them money, thinking they're helping rather than *actually* helping. Here's where the money really goes:


It's disappointing that Fox runs these scam charity ads, and even more disappointing that Mike Huckabee has starred in some of them.
Thought is was eastern Europe to be location of the starving geezers?
 

black dog

Free America
I disagree. All that aid has helped increase Africa's population.

Live Aid sent funds to Ethiopia because kids were starving.

Ethiopia's population: 1985 = 42M, 2025 = 135M. The rest of Africa shows the same numbers.

FWIW, they still can't feed themselves and now they have a whole lot more mouths to take care of. What would have been more humane is anyone accepting food had to be sterilized. Keep the population stable instead of have it increase over 3 times in the next 40 years.
It's created more starvation and poverty. That's something. :jet:
I believe I meant, in a positive manner.
 

Monello

Smarter than the average bear
PREMO Member
Toxic charity : how churches and charities hurt those they help (and how to reverse it)
by Lupton, Robert D


Public service is a way of life for Americans; giving is a part of our national character. But compassionate instincts and generous spirits aren't enough, says veteran urban activist Robert D. Lupton. In this groundbreaking guide, he reveals the disturbing truth about charity: all too much of it has become toxic, devastating to the very people it's meant to help. In his four decades of urban ministry, Lupton has experienced firsthand how our good intentions can have unintended, dire consequences. Our free food and clothing distribution encourages ever-growing handout lines, diminishing the dignity of the poor while increasing their dependency. We converge on inner-city neighborhoods to plant flowers and pick up trash, battering the pride of residents who have the capacity (and responsibility) to beautify their own environment. We fly off on mission trips to poverty-stricken villages, hearts full of pity and suitcases bulging with giveaways--trips that one Nicaraguan leader describes as effective only in "turning my people into beggars."
 

BOP

Well-Known Member
From Google:

How much does Yael Eckstein get paid?

AI Overview

Yael Eckstein, President and CEO of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews (IFCJ), received a total compensation of approximately $931,098 in 2024, according to MinistryWatch data. She has been one of the highest-compensated nonprofit executives, with total compensation reported around $769,000 to $931,000 in recent years.
Key details regarding Yael Eckstein's compensation include:
  • Compensation Trend: As CEO, her compensation was reported at $769,244 in 2023 (based on Paddock Post for the 2023 tax year) and rose to $931,098 in 2024, according to Paddock Post and MinistryWatch.
  • Total Compensation (2018–2024):Reports indicate she received approximately $4 million in total compensation from 2018 to 2024.
  • Benefits: The IFCJ reported paying for her first-class or charter travel and providing tax indemnification.
  • Context: The organization, with over $100 million in revenue, underwent a 2023 salary audit.
 
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