When is "N***** in the White House" NOT racist?

[Gilligan]

yep, you are a racist. a racist with plenty of excuses and very little personal responsibility, but a racist for sure

Be more specific, won't you? Maybe even post the criteria and rules. Because I'm not seeing it. Thanks in advance.

 

[SG_Player1974]

yep, you are a racist. a racist with plenty of excuses and very little personal responsibility, but a racist for sure

Like I said in my post... I stand by what I say and believe! Anyone can call me a racist but my personal experiences and what has happened in my life caused me to have this thought process and these beliefs.

Why is it OK for African Americans to make the same claims but not OK for Caucasians?

And... before you say "200 years of opression.... Let me remind you that you said "a racist with plenty of excuses!"

 

[stgislander]

Like I said in my post... I stand by what I say and believe! Anyone can call me a racist but my personal experiences and what has happened in my life caused me to have this thought process and these beliefs.

Why is it OK for African Americans to make the same claims but not OK for Caucasians?

And... before you say "200 years of opression.... Let me remind you that you said "a racist with plenty of excuses!"

The proper term is European Americans thank you very much.

 

[Midnightrider]

Like I said in my post... I stand by what I say and believe! Anyone can call me a racist but my personal experiences and what has happened in my life caused me to have this thought process and these beliefs.

Why is it OK for African Americans to make the same claims but not OK for Caucasians?

And... before you say "200 years of opression.... Let me remind you that you said "a racist with plenty of excuses!"

I don't excuse racists on either side. Your excuses and justifications don't make you any less a racist.
Even if we take your allegations as truth, the color of the skin of the people who committed the crimes is immaterial.

 

[GW8345]

you havent provided anything that is accurate. You keep making statements that aren't supported by the links you provide. It isn't semantic to say that Obama did not drag us into libya, that is the reality.

you must be a millionare then :shrug:

Obviously I'm discussing a topic with someone who is woefully ill informed or someone who is so engrained with what they've been told that facts are irrelevant, ie. a raving liberal.

MR, I highly doubt you ever voted for anyone with an R behind their name let along a conservative.

 

[GW8345]

Your RINO didn't 'win' any more than my guy did, and i actually voted for a person who i supported.

I dont want the current RINO GOP to be in the whitehouse. I will continue to refuse to vote for any RINOs, if the GOP doesn't change their ways i will never vote GOP again. If you think voting in RINOs is baby steps in the right direction you are delusional. All you are doing is supporting liberals with Rs behind their names

You never said who you voted for, who you wanted in the White House or what percentage your guy got so why don't you do something novel for a change and answer some questions instead of demanding answers from others.

You may say you are a conservative but you write and act like a liberal, demanding others inform you and answer your question all the while screaming racism at everything you don't like or agree with.

 

[BigBlue]

White people voted for him because he is black, .

Not only is this racist ,it is moronically ignorant!Anyone who try's defend it is ten times worse then the moron that wrote it .People voted for Obama because the republicans had nothing , get it ...nothing to offer this country .Oh yeah , they elected him twice you mutant imbecile .

 

[GW8345]

Not only is this racist ,it is moronically ignorant!Anyone who try's defend it is ten times worse then the moron that wrote it .People voted for Obama because the republicans had nothing , get it ...nothing to offer this country .Oh yeah , they elected him twice you mutant imbecile .

Oh look who decided to chime in.

Okay, why don't you tell everyone what qualifications, record, history and accomplishments barry had when he ran for POTUS back on 08?

 

[BigBlue]

Oh look who decided to chime in.

Okay, why don't you tell everyone what qualifications, record, history and accomplishments barry had when he ran for POTUS back on 08?

Thank you I won the bet ,I said you would be the first horse's butt to answer ,you or Gilligan .You are so full of crap this thread about race ,stick with it or are you too slow to understand it ?

 

[Midnightrider]

Obviously I'm discussing a topic with someone who is woefully ill informed or someone who is so engrained with what they've been told that facts are irrelevant, ie. a raving liberal.

MR, I highly doubt you ever voted for anyone with an R behind their name let along a conservative.

Well you are wrong a lot, we can just add this to the list. :shrug:


As for Libya, your claim was that Obama dragged us into a war with them. You haven't provided anything to support your claim.
A few bombing runs in support of a NATO action isn't 'dragging us into war'. But remember, this started with a comparison to McCain. How many boots do you think he would have had on the ground? I would bet lots considering his rhetoric over the years

 

[Midnightrider]

You never said who you voted for, who you wanted in the White House or what percentage your guy got so why don't you do something novel for a change and answer some questions instead of demanding answers from others.

You may say you are a conservative but you write and act like a liberal, demanding others inform you and answer your question all the while screaming racism at everything you don't like or agree with.

I only call people racist when they act like one. You write and act like a racist.

I haven't demanded anything from anyone, and I certainly dont need you to 'inform' me of anything (poor spelling aside). You wouldn't be able to do much more than misinform anyway.


I voted for a guy who got less votes than Obama but that represented my views. In '08 that was a write-in, in '12 it was Johnson. :shrug:

 

[GW8345]

Well you are wrong a lot, we can just add this to the list. :shrug:


As for Libya, your claim was that Obama dragged us into a war with them. You haven't provided anything to support your claim.
A few bombing runs in support of a NATO action isn't 'dragging us into war'. But remember, this started with a comparison to McCain. How many boots do you think he would have had on the ground? I would bet lots considering his rhetoric over the years

A few bomb runs my ass, it was at least a two campaign.

And how do you know what McCain would have done, do you have a crystal ball or psychic. You can sit there and say McCain would have done this or he would have done that but the fact is that you don't know exactly what he would have done, we know exactly what barry did.

If I'm wrong, prove me wrong then.

 

[GW8345]

I only call people racist when they act like one. You write and act like a racist.

I haven't demanded anything from anyone, and I certainly dont need you to 'inform' me of anything (poor spelling aside). You wouldn't be able to do much more than misinform anyway.


I voted for a guy who got less votes than Obama but that represented my views. In '08 that was a write-in, in '12 it was Johnson. :shrug:

Before you comment on someone's spelling, you might want to go back and review your posts.

Okay, you call me a racist and I'll call you a raving liberal, now what do we do?

 

[GW8345]

http://www.newsmax.com/Limbaugh/Obama--post--racial--race--card--Eric--Holder--FCC--New--Black--Panther--Party/2010/07/16/id/364852/

http://www.aim.org/special-report/reason-to-hate-barack-obamas-racist-roots/

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/368679/obama-administrations-mandated-racism-mona-charen

http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-racist/

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/08/73971-mindblowing-252-well-cited-examples-of-obama-corruption-cronyism-lying-lawbreaking/

http://www.saveyourrights.com/tag/racism/

 

[Midnightrider]

A few bomb runs my ass, it was at least a two campaign.

And how do you know what McCain would have done, do you have a crystal ball or psychic. You can sit there and say McCain would have done this or he would have done that but the fact is that you don't know exactly what he would have done, we know exactly what barry did.

If I'm wrong, prove me wrong then.

I already have. We weren't dragged into a war. Words actually have meaning.

I never claimed to know exactly what McCain would have one. What I do have is an educated guess based on things he has said over the years. I believe McCain would have kept us in both afghan and Iraq and involved us in several other boots on the ground actions.

 

[GW8345]

Well you are wrong a lot, we can just add this to the list. :shrug:


As for Libya, your claim was that Obama dragged us into a war with them. You haven't provided anything to support your claim.
A few bombing runs in support of a NATO action isn't 'dragging us into war'. But remember, this started with a comparison to McCain. How many boots do you think he would have had on the ground? I would bet lots considering his rhetoric over the years

I already have. We weren't dragged into a war. Words actually have meaning.

I never claimed to know exactly what McCain would have one. What I do have is an educated guess based on things he has said over the years. I believe McCain would have kept us in both afghan and Iraq and involved us in several other boots on the ground actions.

Um, you might want to go back and review your previous post, unless you want to argue semantics again.

 

[Midnightrider]

Um, you might want to go back and review your previous post, unless you want to argue semantics again.

Words have meaning. You need to read all of them and do it carefully if you hope to follow along.


'I would bet' does not equal 'i know exactly'.

 

[GW8345]

Words have meaning. You need to read all of them and do it carefully if you hope to follow along.


'I would bet' does not equal 'i know exactly'.

Ok.

Now, explain barry's racist past, explain why Holder refused to prosecute the NBPP back in 09, explain Rev Wright, the Cambridge MA remarks, Travon Martin, and his treatment of the Dali lama.

What record did barry have that made voters vote for him, what accomplishments did he have, why is his college records sealed, why did he lie about who wrote his two books, why did he lie about Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright?

 

[GW8345]

So MR, you voted for Johnson in 12, a fiscal conservative but a social liberal who pledge cut the military's budget by 43% and stated that he does not believe Iran was a military threat.

After doing some research your guy was a classic liberal with fiscal conservative leanings, a classic RINO.

Johnson's views have been described as fiscally conservative and socially progressive[104] with a philosophy of limited government[105] and military non-interventionism.[106][107] He has identified as a classical liberal.[108] Johnson has said he favors simplifying and reducing taxes.[109] During his governorship, Johnson cut taxes fourteen times and never increased them.[110] Due to his stance on taxes, political pundit David Weigel described him as "the original Tea Party candidate."[111] Johnson has advocated for the FairTax, a proposal which would abolish all federal income, corporate and capital gains taxes, and replace them with a 23% tax on consumption of all non-essential goods, while providing a regressive rebate to households according to income level. He has argued that this would assure transparency in the tax system and incentivize the private sector to create "tens of millions of jobs."[112]

Johnson has said that he supports balancing the federal budget immediately.[113] He has stated he supports "slashing government spending", including Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security,[109] which would involve cutting Medicare and Medicaid by 43 percent and turning them into block grant programs, with control of spending in the hands of the states to create, in his words, "fifty laboratories of innovation."[113] He has advocated passing a law allowing for state bankruptcy and expressly ruling out a federal bailout of any states.[105] Johnson has expressed opposition to the Federal Reserve System, which he has cited as massively devaluing the strength of the U.S. dollar, and would sign legislation to eliminate it. He has also supported an audit of the central bank, and urged Members of Congress in July 2012 to vote in favor of Ron Paul's Federal Reserve Transparency Act.[114]

In his campaign for the Libertarian Party nomination, he stated he opposed foreign wars and pledged to cut the military budget by 43 percent in his first term as president.[107] He would cut the military's overseas bases, uniformed and civilian personnel, research and development, intelligence, and nuclear weapons programs.[115][116] He has stated his opposition to US involvement in the War in Afghanistan and opposed the US involvement in the Libyan Civil War.[117] He has stated that he does not believe Iran is a military threat, would use his presidential power to prevent Israel from attacking Iran, and would not follow Israel, or any other ally, into a war that it had initiated.[118]

Johnson is a strong supporter of civil liberties and received the highest score of any candidate from the American Civil Liberties Union for supporting drug decriminalization and having a pro-choice stance on abortion, while opposing censorship and regulation of the Internet, the Patriot Act, enhanced airport screenings, and the indefinite detention of prisoners.[119] He has spoken in favor of the separation of church and state, and has said that he does not "seek the counsel of God" when determining his political agenda.[120] Johnson endorsed same-sex marriage in 2011;[121] he has since called for a constitutional amendment protecting equal marriage rights,[121] and criticized Obama's position on the issue as having "thrown this question back to the states."[122] Johnson has been a long time advocate of legalizing marijuana and has said that if he were President, he would remove it from Schedule I of the Controlled Substances Act as well as issue an executive order pardoning non-violent marijuana offenders.[123] Johnson has stated his opposition to gun control and has said, "I'm a firm believer in the Second Amendment and so I would not have signed legislation banning assault weapons or automatic weapons."[124]

He's not a true conservative, no wonder he didn't get any support from the republican party. And you call McCain a RINO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson

 

[Midnightrider]

So MR, you voted for Johnson in 12, a fiscal conservative but a social liberal who pledge cut the military's budget by 43% and stated that he does not believe Iran was a military threat.

After doing some research your guy was a classic liberal with fiscal conservative leanings, a classic RINO.



He's not a true conservative, no wonder he didn't get any support from the republican party. And you call McCain a RINO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson

Your problem is that you think republican means telling people how to live their lives and exerting military force over foreign entities. You aren't alone, that is what the right has become.


Having said that I'm not surprised that a self-proclaimed 'informed voter' would need to research Gary Johnson
Even though your research is only wiki, lets pretend its gospel and talk it out.
Go back and read that paragraph on fiscal conservative and explain why you wouldn't vote for a guy with a record of cutting taxes 14 times as governor. How is balancing the federal budget a bad thing?

I see his Medicare plan as a great idea. What is the problem, these are the hard decisions that have to be made if you are going to do more than play lip service to fiscal responsibility. You should research his welfare position...


I dont see anything liberal about staying the #### out of other countries business and ending this ridiculous democracy building period we have embarked on. Again, cuts to the military, research, and EVERYTHING will need to happen if we ever want to get out of the hole.

Please explain how Johnson stance on Israel is 'liberal'

That last part is about Johnson supporting civil liberties. How is that a problem? We are talking about rights here, and Johnson supports the rights guaranteed in the constitution, all of them, not just he ones you agree with. He also agrees with letting cults make their own choices. The only 'liberal' position he holds is on marijuana and I completely agree with him on it. But I would call that liberal, its libertarian.

As for your issue with his stance on religion, how is it a problem? Not all conservatives are Christian or even religious. There is nothing wrong with the separation of church and state and you would agree if the church was a mosque. Johnson just believes all religion should be kept out.


Oh, and that last little part that you didn't bold. He is a strong supporter of the 2ndA. The most liberal stance of all.