Why do kids think they need to do drugs & alcohol?

The epidemic is rapidly growing and addicts are younger and younger... why are kids of today so willing to throw their lives away leaving us with useless strung out young adults that are nothing more than scabby blisters on society?

Why don't they want more for themselves? :confused: The article is about Ohio, but it easily applies to our area.


Until a few years ago, addicts were overwhelmingly men who lived in urban areas, many of them from racial minorities. An alarming number of those entering treatment programs in Ohio -- a good measure of addiction -- are young, he said. Most are white. They are from poor rural counties and wealthy suburbs. Many are girls and women.


Crackdown on painkiller abuse fuels new wave of heroin addiction - Open Channel
 

struggler44

A Salute to all on Watch
I don't know why and I'm hoping mine make good choices as they grow, I have 2 in O.C. this week and I pray things stay well, outside influence can be the downfall........
 

b23hqb

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PREMO Member
I don't know why and I'm hoping mine make good choices as they grow, I have 2 in O.C. this week and I pray things stay well, outside influence can be the downfall........

What is O.C.?

My opinion is a lot of these kids, not all, are starting abusing things at a younger age because of influences inside their own homes - parents and older siblings, TV, video games, etc.

The acorn does not usually drop far from the tree.
 
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struggler44

A Salute to all on Watch
What is O.C.?

My opinion is a lot of these kids, not all, are starting abusing things at a younger age because of influences inside their own homes - parents and older siblings, TV, video games, etc.

The acorn does not usually drop far from the tree.

Ocean City, Md......It's senior week
 

Danzig

Well-Known Member
This is what Capt. Daniel Alioto, the Commander of St. Mary’s County Sheriff’s Office, Vice/Narcotics Unit had to say.

SMNEWSNET.com: Just how bad is the drug situation in St. Mary’s County? That is a lot of pills.

ALIOTO: That’s a difficult question to answer. Drug usage in the county has gone through a transition from regular street drugs – Marijuana, Cocaine and Meth to prescription drugs in recent years and now we’re experiencing another transition from prescription drugs to heroin – a much more dangerous narcotic than pills.

The War on Drugs, in Transition in St. Mary

War on Drugs in Transition- Conversation with Captain Alioto Part 2 | Southern Maryland News Net

Final Installment
 
Excerpt from the first link provided by Danzig cut/pasted for all of those that don't think we need to arrest and jail drug users:


ALIOTO: By ripple effect, I mean the non-drug crime caused by drug addiction and usage. As people are addicted to narcotics, they tend to
commit other crimes in order to support their drug habit. In recent times we have seen an influx of thefts, burglaries, motor vehicle vandalism and theft, false reports and more – all of which tie up valuable resources and take deputies off the streets.
 

libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
Unfortunately drug abuse has hit extremely close to me. several friends and family members. Here's my take.


WITHOUT EXCEPTION every one of these people I know have an issue with..get this..."boredom" or what they perceive to be boredom. They cannot sit in the house and read a book or just chill. They have all had super amped up childhoods, full of vacations, limitless toys and stimulation..parents who have taken them everywhere and done everything with them since they were tiny. CONSTANT stimulation from activities, "learning," television, video games, "educational" experiences. A dear family member of mine had what a lot of people would think was the greatest childhood ever..constant trips and vacations, trips to Fl constantly, parties, games, friends over every day, activities GALORE...but what he didn't have was anyone to teach him to have downtime, to not be constantly stimulated and "entertained" now to him, having a job is "boring" ..everything is "boring" if he isnt smacked up. Unfortunately he was introduced to prescription pain pills legitimately, he was in a horrific car wreck..from there he realized he liked them, they made things less "boring" and now several years later he is a card carrying heroin addict. He's smart, funny, good looking, has a loving family..and yet there he is, with track marks.

Another family member (step family) same issue. SHe was given everything since birth. I used to be so jealous on christmas. SOOO jealous at all of the things she got. She is younger than me and every christmas would get the latest electronics, toys, and CASH. They took her everywhere, let her do everything..,concerts, activities, vacations..constantly and even from a very young age. Again..young, beautiful, intelligent (extrememly so, actually) and yet she will do any drug that comes within a 10 mile radius.


They don't even know each other, and they are so similar.



I am of the opinion, from my own experiences that their are two main issues at play here. 1, is the lifestyle people are giving their children. The constant stimulation, constant "educational experiences," constant demand for entertainement..look, there are dvd players in cars because some kids cant entertain themselves on a 20 min trip to walmart..leapfrog books that read TO you and play sounds and music, video games for hours on end, constant tv, countless activities, forced "family time" that according to popular mags needs to include some kind of structured activity, it goes on and on. We don't alow children to be bored, to entertain themselves, to not be engaged in something every moment of every day. DOWNTIME, BEDTIMES, CALMING RITUALS AND ACTIVITIES. We spend so much time "teaching" children everything and pushing them to "follow their dreams" we totally forget that it is more important to prepare them for adult life where everything isn't a circus,a nd we can't be entertained every moment, and we do things we don't want to, because we have to.
2, is of course the fact that narcotics are handed out like tic tacs. For everything from cramps to back pain. Teens have a false sense of security because they think they are "safe" and they are somehow morally superior to people who do "street drugs"


I have several addicts and recovered addicts in my life. They could practically be the same person they are all so similar. none were abused or neglected, none had more than an average amount of strife in life. And yet none of them could face life as they got older without some kind of chemical. A constant pursuit of excitement and entertainment.
 
I have several addicts and recovered addicts in my life. They could practically be the same person they are all so similar. none were abused or neglected, none had more than an average amount of strife in life. And yet none of them could face life as they got older without some kind of chemical. A constant pursuit of excitement and entertainment.
I think you hit the nail on the head, Lib. Your observations make complete sense.
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
Exactly my point... why do they feel the need to do something obviously stupid and Liberty's observation would answer the 'toothpasting' too.

The illegal aspect of it would be my guess...plus their friends are doing it.

It comes down to parenting. Be upfront. Kids hear "don't do drugs, or drink" all the time, and their friends aren't dropping dead from it, so they think it's ok.
 
The illegal aspect of it would be my guess...plus their friends are doing it.

It comes down to parenting. Be upfront. Kids hear "don't do drugs, or drink" all the time, and their friends aren't dropping dead from it, so they think it's ok.
Why should parents stop telling their kids not to do drugs or drink... just because you don't drop dead doesn't mean you are okay. We ALL know people who do it that are still alive and kicking, but not okay. My question was what makes them chose that path in life for themselves rather than try to become a productive member in society... I still believe Liberty has the best answer.
 

Chris0nllyn

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Why should parents stop telling their kids not to do drugs or drink... just because you don't drop dead doesn't mean you are okay. We ALL know people who do it that are still alive and kicking, but not okay. My question was what makes them chose that path in life for themselves rather than try to become a productive member in society... I still believe Liberty has the best answer.

I'm not saying that parents should do that. I'm saying that kids aren't stupid, and if you(not you personally) used to smoke pot when you were their age, don't deny it. Yet, we've got all these DARE programs, and what-not telling kids DON'T DO DRUGS, they KILL! In reality, they see otherwise, leading them to not believe what they've heard.

Tell them, yea, I did it, I watched a lot of my friends go down the wrong path, but I chose not to, and that's why you get to live the "good life".

As far as choosing your life outcome, sometimes it just happens. I bet if you go ask a homeless person if they chose to be homeless, they'd say no. Trauma in one's life, parenting, friends, etc. all play a major role in what someone chooses to do with their lives. It's up to the INDIVIDUAL to make sure they follow the path they want, and live the life they want.
 
I'm not saying that parents should do that. I'm saying that kids aren't stupid, and if you(not you personally) used to smoke pot when you were their age, don't deny it. Yet, we've got all these DARE programs, and what-not telling kids DON'T DO DRUGS, they KILL! In reality, they see otherwise, leading them to not believe what they've heard.

Tell them, yea, I did it, I watched a lot of my friends go down the wrong path, but I chose not to, and that's why you get to live the "good life".

As far as choosing your life outcome, sometimes it just happens. I bet if you go ask a homeless person if they chose to be homeless, they'd say no. Trauma in one's life, parenting, friends, etc. all play a major role in what someone chooses to do with their lives. It's up to the INDIVIDUAL to make sure they follow the path they want, and live the life they want.

Gotcha. Yeah, I hear you... I've already had the discussion about underage drinking with my 19 year old and yes, I did talk about how I was 19 when I first experimented with alcohol...:alkies:

Ours was a real discussion... I don't condone underage drinking and gave him the reasons why it's not a good thing based on my actual observations and experiences and I sat and really listened as he gave me his observations and experiences.

I will never be a believer in "well they'll do it anyway so I might as well let it be", but I'm also a realist and know it happens. My children know where I stand on the various subjects and they have that to take away with them when they are faced with decisions in life. They also know they are responsible for whatever consequences come from the decisions they make in life.


What I can't comprehend is how it seems so many young adults nowadays don't consider consequences or even worse don't fear them.
 

libertytyranny

Dream Stealer
Gotcha. Yeah, I hear you... I've already had the discussion about underage drinking with my 19 year old and yes, I did talk about how I was 19 when I first experimented with alcohol...:alkies:

Ours was a real discussion... I don't condone underage drinking and gave him the reasons why it's not a good thing based on my actual observations and experiences and I sat and really listened as he gave me his observations and experiences.

I will never be a believer in "well they'll do it anyway so I might as well let it be", but I'm also a realist and know it happens. My children know where I stand on the various subjects and they have that to take away with them when they are faced with decisions in life. They also know they are responsible for whatever consequences come from the decisions they make in life. What I can't comprehend is how it seems so many young adults nowadays don't consider consequences or even worse don't fear them.




And THIS is a huge part of the addicts I deal with. All of them live with family. While being addicts. My mother would never allow me to live at her house, eat her food, etc while I was being a useless drug addict. Parents today are guilted into keeping ADULTS at their house because of the big bad world, or the bad economy, or they can't HELP it, addiction is a disease blah blah...and if a brave set of parents decided to not be guilted, then entitlemnets pick up the slack. There ARE no real consequences, at least none that are felt as a teen. Sure, one day my family members are going to look around and think, i'm 40 years old and have nothing to show for life, but now in their late teens and twenties, those thoughts to not occur to them..they have food, shelter, and get to run around smacked up. Had they pressure to find somewhere safe to sleep, or food to eat it would be a different story. My grandmother lets heroin head live with her. She's afraid he will get hurt on the streets. But thats exactly what he DESERVES. His choices led him directly to that fate. To keep him from the logical conclusion to his lifestyle only serves to continue to allow him to be an addict unrestrained.
 

bresamil

wandering aimlessly
I have no answers. I think Liberty is pretty close to the mark. Thankfully my kids have yet to choose this path but that doesn't mean they won't. They frequently come home telling stories of friends that shocked them by admitting they were into drugs.

I've warned them, they've seen people go downhill, they know that there are alcoholics on both sides of the family. Yet I know my oldest has had alcohol and his father just can't wait until the boy is 21 so they can be drinking buddies.

Some days I get totally freaked just thinking that my second son who is so focused on the future and college and career will feel pressed to try something or have something slipped to him and he'll end up like Jim Ignatowski.

And yeah I'm worried about the girl too. She lectures her friends now but she's a little social butterfly so that pressure is going to be on her.
 

DEEKAYPEE8569

Well-Known Member
The epidemic is rapidly growing and addicts are younger and younger... why are kids of today so willing to throw their lives away leaving us with useless strung out young adults that are nothing more than scabby blisters on society?

Why don't they want more for themselves? :confused: The article is about Ohio, but it easily applies to our area.


Until a few years ago, addicts were overwhelmingly men who lived in urban areas, many of them from racial minorities. An alarming number of those entering treatment programs in Ohio -- a good measure of addiction -- are young, he said. Most are white. They are from poor rural counties and wealthy suburbs. Many are girls and women.


Crackdown on painkiller abuse fuels new wave of heroin addiction - Open Channel

When I was in my early growing up years; still growing up; it was smoking cigarettes or weed. Then it was the other "hardcore" things. None of which I took part in/of. With what is out there now, I would be VERY vigilant about looking for behavioral and/or physical changes in my kids; if I had any.
Although, my Neices' and Nephews' well being is always on my mind.
 
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