Why do people have such a hard time understanding what "stand your ground" means?

[vraiblonde]

Hint: it doesn't mean start blasting away at anyone who comes to your door.

Indiana man accused of killing house cleaner who mistakenly arrived at front door charged with manslaughter

Curt Andersen faces decades in prison if convicted for shooting a cleaning woman through a front door, as prosecutors challenge his stand-your-ground law defense.

www.foxnews.com

Story:

Cleaning crew goes to the wrong address at 7am.
As the cleaning lady is trying unsuccessfully to open the door with keys, homeowner shoots through the door from the top of his stairs, killing her.

Yeah, not "standing his ground".

What he should have done when he looked out the window and saw strangers trying to get into his house was open the window and ask them what they were doing. They'd have said, "Housekeeping?" and the situation would have been cleared up. Or if they were bad guys, they'd have taken off running, in which case the guy calls the cops and gives a description. What you *don't* do is blast through the door without identifying your target.

If you just want to shoot someone, you sit on the stairs and wait. If they gain entry, then you can shoot them.

 

[thurley42]

 

[Kyle]

Hint: it doesn't mean start blasting away at anyone who comes to your door.

If you just want to shoot someone, you sit on the stairs and wait. If they gain entry, then you can shoot them.

well, I wish you would’ve posted this yesterday before the Jehovah’s Witnesses got here!

 

[PrchJrkr]

well, I wish you would’ve posted this yesterday before the Jehovah’s Witnesses got here!

:justifiablehomicide:

 

[black dog]

Hint: it doesn't mean start blasting away at anyone who comes to your door.

Indiana man accused of killing house cleaner who mistakenly arrived at front door charged with manslaughter

Curt Andersen faces decades in prison if convicted for shooting a cleaning woman through a front door, as prosecutors challenge his stand-your-ground law defense.

www.foxnews.com

Story:

Cleaning crew goes to the wrong address at 7am.
As the cleaning lady is trying unsuccessfully to open the door with keys, homeowner shoots through the door from the top of his stairs, killing her.

Yeah, not "standing his ground".

What he should have done when he looked out the window and saw strangers trying to get into his house was open the window and ask them what they were doing. They'd have said, "Housekeeping?" and the situation would have been cleared up. Or if they were bad guys, they'd have taken off running, in which case the guy calls the cops and gives a description. What you *don't* do is blast through the door without identifying your target.

If you just want to shoot someone, you sit on the stairs and wait. If they gain entry, then you can shoot them.

I don't think you have a good understanding of Stand Your Ground Laws.
So cleaning people are at the wrong address for starters, the husband and wife in there own home hear people trying to break into his home.
They both feel instant imminent danger, of great personal harm to one or both of them with people breaking into there home.
Those on the porch were fair game with them trying to enter a home, that they had no business trying to enter.

 

[LightRoasted]

For your consideration ...



Maybe it was a language issue gone awry? Maria Florinda Rios Perez De Velasquez, a Guatemalan immigrant. I wonder if she and her husband are here legally?

 

[OccamsRazor]

I don't think you have a good understanding of Stand Your Ground Laws.
So cleaning people are at the wrong address for starters, the husband and wife in there own home hear people trying to break into his home.
They both feel instant imminent danger, of great personal harm to one or both of them with people breaking into there home.
Those on the porch were fair game with them trying to enter a home, that they had no business trying to enter.

Tell that to the Florida woman serving 30+ years for shooting and killing a neighborhood mom through her door

 

[black dog]

For your consideration ...



Maybe it was a language issue gone awry? Maria Florinda Rios Perez De Velasquez, a Guatemalan immigrant. I wonder if she and her husband are here legally?

The husband has hired Guy Relford as his attorney, Mr Relford is one of the mid-wests top 2nd Amendment Attorneys.
I've been to a few of Guys classes he puts on with this topic right here.

To many people tend to add personal feelings to how that think with SYG laws.
Its not how you feel with what happened, its how did they feel at the exact time of the event.

 

[black dog]

Tell that to the Florida woman serving 30+ years for shooting and killing a neighborhood mom through her door

Post the case... And this wasn't in Florida, it was in Indiana.

 

[Ken King]

Tell that to the Florida woman serving 30+ years for shooting and killing a neighborhood mom through her door

So what, Florida laws apply to an act in Indiana?

SYG has 3 elements in Indiana self defense,

1. Was the defendant legally at the place of the act.
2. Did the defendant antagonize or cause the interaction.
3. Did the defendant determine that there was a threat of imminent harm reasonable.

 

[black dog]

Tell that to the Florida woman serving 30+ years for shooting and killing a neighborhood mom through her door

If its the case that I'm thinking of, do you not think that shooting through a door that someone was knocking on any different than two people trying for over a minute in the dark with tools or keys to enter your home is the same?

 

[Monello]

Joe Biden: "If you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the shotgun through the door."

 

[Clem72]

I don't think you have a good understanding of Stand Your Ground Laws.
So cleaning people are at the wrong address for starters, the husband and wife in there own home hear people trying to break into his home.
They both feel instant imminent danger, of great personal harm to one or both of them with people breaking into there home.
Those on the porch were fair game with them trying to enter a home, that they had no business trying to enter.

if an 80lbs woman jiggling the keys at your door puts you in fear of great personal harm maybe that's a you problem.

 

[Czar]

Post the case... And this wasn't in Florida, it was in Indiana.

No, you both are wrong. It was Texas.

 

[black dog]

No, you both are wrong. It was Texas.

Indiana homeowner charged after allegedly fatally shooting house cleaner who went to wrong address

The Boone County, Indiana Prosecutor's Office has charged a homeowner accused of fatally shooting a Guatemalan house cleaner after she mistakenly went to the wrong address.

abc7chicago.com

 

[DaSDGuy]

well, I wish you would’ve posted this yesterday before the Jehovah’s Witnesses got here!

Call 811 before you dig.

 

[Czar]

Indiana homeowner charged after allegedly fatally shooting house cleaner who went to wrong address

The Boone County, Indiana Prosecutor's Office has charged a homeowner accused of fatally shooting a Guatemalan house cleaner after she mistakenly went to the wrong address.

abc7chicago.com

You are correct sir. It was Oklahoma.

 

[PeoplesElbow]

Maybe it's just me, but if someone was trying to get into my door I open it up and say who TF are you and why are you trying to get in my house, with a weapon behind my back. Don't shoot them until they are in the house, I know it makes a mess.

 

[Ken King]

Maybe it's just me, but if someone was trying to get into my door I open it up and say who TF are you and why are you trying to get in my house, with a weapon behind my back. Don't shoot them until they are in the house, I know it makes a mess.

Well, seems you saw it as an imminent threat or you wouldn't have brought your weapon. Why give them a chance to prove you right?

I see you edited your post - that mess could be you.

 

[vraiblonde]

The problem with these trigger-happy morons (besides that they kill innocent people) is that they hose it up for the rest of us. Now the progs will go, "See? People just gunning down innocent victims!" and they have cases to point to. They whine/bitch/cry and before you know it your city/state/country has elected a gun banner, and responsible gun owners are sht outta luck.