Why one cop carries 145 rounds of ammo on the job

Kyle

Beloved Misanthrope
PREMO Member
Before the call that changed Sergeant Timothy Gramins’ life forever, he typically carried 47 rounds of handgun ammunition on his person while on duty

At the core of his desperate firefight was a murderous attacker who simply would not go down, even though he was shot 14 times with .45-cal. ammunition – six of those hits in supposedly fatal locations.

https://www.police1.com/officer-sho...5-rounds-of-ammo-on-the-job-clGBbLYpnqqHxwMq/
 

DaSDGuy

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hollow point 44 mag removes meat
Most departments won't let them use hollow points because they might hurt the person trying to kill them. Actually a lot of hollow points will shatter when the hit something like a car window. They prefer something with penetrating power.
 

Kyle

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PREMO Member
Most departments won't let them use hollow points because they might hurt the person trying to kill them. Actually a lot of hollow points will shatter when the hit something like a car window. They prefer something with penetrating power.
In recent years they started using bonded power points. hold together for penetration through things like a windshield, but begin to expand when they strike.
 

DaSDGuy

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In recent years they started using bonded power points. hold together for penetration through things like a windshield, but begin to expand when they strike.
Our local county constables still can't carry them.
 

stgislander

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PREMO Member
Does the military allowed to carry hollow points now? We carried ball ammo in our 45ACPs. I remember something about hollow point or fragmenting ammo being against the Geneva Convention.
 

black dog

Free America
Most departments won't let them use hollow points because they might hurt the person trying to kill them. Actually a lot of hollow points will shatter when the hit something like a car window. They prefer something with penetrating power.

What departments are those please?
 

black dog

Free America
Does the military allowed to carry hollow points now? We carried ball ammo in our 45ACPs. I remember something about hollow point or fragmenting ammo being against the Geneva Convention.
The rounds loaded with Sierra match king bullets that our Armed Services have an open tip.
77 grain 5.56, 175 grain 7.62 LR, 190 and 220 grain 300 win mag..
 

Kyle

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PREMO Member
Does the military allowed to carry hollow points now? We carried ball ammo in our 45ACPs. I remember something about hollow point or fragmenting ammo being against the Geneva Convention.
They don’t call it hollow points. They refer to it as a match grade open tip.

I’m not sure what the convention rules are, but I do know but one of my former coworkers who served in Iraq in 2006 loaded up with. 8+ mags worth Whenever he could get it.
 

black dog

Free America
They don’t call it hollow points. They refer to it as a match grade open tip.

I’m not sure what the convention rules are, but I do know but one of my former coworkers who served in Iraq in 2006 loaded up with. 8+ mags worth Whenever he could get it.

With the new generation of rifles being issued to some strait leg marines the load out is 28 loaded pmags with the 77 grain 5.56...
 

black dog

Free America
5.56 I assume a small round for less recoil to get back on target or they say speed kills?
Speed does kill... But..
I dont believe so, much improved range and down range ballistics over 855 62 grain round...
The 77 grain load is lethal past 700 yards.
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
The Geneva Conventions have nothing to do with the limitations on ammunition, that would be the Hague Conventions that limits ammunition that expand or flatten when entering the body.
 

black dog

Free America
win mag or rum both will remove your head and most of your inerds

I was fortunate to shoot a few thousand of the first Navy 190 grain 300 win mag loads , even with a 16 lb 700 it was the most violent rifle I have fired extensively... Its an impressive load.
It and then the 220 grain load pushed that cartridge capabilities out past 1,500 yds at about 1.1 moa.
Ive never shot a rum nor do I know its capabilities. If I had the chance I would.
 
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