Why some say Mexico already built Trump's wall -- and paid for it

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
I would think you, of all people, would be pleased at the very least to see him dismantling our elite untouchable government and media institutions that keep us enslaved both physically and mentally. And yet I've seen you rail when Trump pops them publicly. If you are truly a libertarian, you'd be championing freedom, not bitching when someone takes down our oppressors.

And there it is. You blame Trump because our media masters have told the bots to freak out over a hat. You criticize Trump for the actions taken by his opposition, which is exactly their excuse: "Well, if Trump wasn't so heinous and Stalinist, we wouldn't have to beat the sh*t out of his supporters and burn down cities in protest."

How do you not understand that that's ****ed up? How do you not understand that Trump is not the fascist here?

  1. Please, show us all how Trump is dismantling that.
  2. No, I don't blame Trump for that. I blame the people who get freaked out over a hat. I blame them because they are arguing falsehoods while everyone ignores the root of the problem...decades of consolidation of power at the Executive level.
I've never called Trump a fascist and never have agreed with the idea that Trump is a white supremacist or that he's solely responsible for violence or anything else outside of factual evidence that Trump is a bad President. Same thing I did with Obama. His actual policies and actual moves as President are enough.

I wish you'd read my posts and stop letting your ideas about me cloud what I actually type.

But I also understand that in your mind, Trump can do no wrong and anything that is remotely his fault is simply the fault of the "progbot lefties hearing dog whistles" or whatever other term you can come up with. I've witnessed you take continually Trump at his word because he told you not to trust the media simply because they are the media all while you complain that people aren't capable of objectively coming to their own conclusions and that any criticism of Trump is not warranted and labeled as "TDS" or "orange man bad" despite clear and concise objections to his actual policy decisions and should not be equated to the objections of people who think he's bad because he's a "fascist" or whatever stupid term they can coin.
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
...I've stopped believing he holds himself to a higher standard

No, you just think that a certain select group of forum posters you disagree with on certain political subjects owe you a 30 page dissertation on our opinions. This is something that you refuse to ask of anyone you agree with despite those people exhibiting the very same logical fallacies or inconsistencies you like to point out if I or other select few people post them.

Discussing things with you simply becomes tiresome. As does continually justifying my opinions only to be told I'm having TDS or whatever.

Hold me to some mythical "higher standard" or not, I really don't care because that "higher standard" you have is clearly not applied equally.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
The thread is supposed to lead people to believe that Mexico is thwarting illegal immigration because Trump pressured them into creating this super awesome federal force but Mexico can't even capture one of their highest profile drug lords without giving him back to the cartel.
How many of those migrant caravans are being escorted by small armies of heavily armed men fully prepared to take on the Mexican forces?

What's that?.."none", you say? Good..here's a cookie.
 

black dog

Free America
Doesn't matter what CNN says now; what they've been saying for 3 years is what's embedded in the bot brains is that Trump lied about Mexico paying for the wall, and Trump personally rips children from their parents' arms and throws them in concentration camps.

If the leftist media had told the truth from the beginning, this would be a different country right now. The Transporters would be marginalized freaks instead of a major voting bloc, for one thing. We'd be able to discuss issues like adults instead of having a pack of kids running around wagging their finger at us.

If I were Trump I'd be like, you know what? Screw you people. You don't deserve nice things. And I'd take my billions and go lay on a beach somewhere and have my Smokin Hot Wife bring me frozen beverages.

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This_person

Well-Known Member
No, you just think that a certain select group of forum posters you disagree with on certain political subjects owe you a 30 page dissertation on our opinions.
While that's possible, I'll stick with what I think I believe over what you think I believe. I'm almost always correct on what I think that I think :buddies:.
Hold me to some mythical "higher standard" or not, I really don't care because that "higher standard" you have is clearly not applied equally.
Now, see, if it were applied equally, it wouldn't really be a "higher" standard, it would be "the same" standard.

That only some people are (or were) deserving of such respect and expectation is kind of what makes it unequal, and thus "higher".

It's kind of in the definition of the word that it's not equal.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
  1. Please, show us all how Trump is dismantling that.
Are you kidding me? The very fact that they're not bothering to try and hide their bias/agenda speaks for itself. Trump forced them out in the open and now don't even try to hide their fascism. CNN, in particular, used to try and pretend objectivity - the most trusted name in news, they said. Well that chit's out the window and now they are right there with it. And have seen a significant drop in ratings as a result.

Trump also forced the politicians to sh*t or git with regard to illegal immigration by implementing the policies Barack Obama and the Democrat leadership spoke of, but never followed through on. Now we see clearly that they were just mouthing platitudes to shut us up and had no intention of securing our border.

"Oh we'd loooove to see manufacturing come back to the US..." right up until the second that Trump started putting together policies to make it happen.

"We will forcibly take your guns," sez Democrat candidate Beto.....and not a one of them spoke up against that. Not the media, not his primary opponents, none of them.

They're not even pretending anymore, and we have Trump to thank for that because he calls them out every day. They've had no choice but to go balls to the wall and push their agenda openly and see what happens.

That you refuse to see it speaks volumes and clearly I was wrong about you. I thought you meant it when you said you were nonpartisan, and that was foolish of me. I won't make that mistake again.
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
Are you kidding me? The very fact that they're not bothering to try and hide their bias/agenda speaks for itself. Trump forced them out in the open and now don't even try to hide their fascism. CNN, in particular, used to try and pretend objectivity - the most trusted name in news, they said. Well that chit's out the window and now they are right there with it. And have seen a significant drop in ratings as a result.

Trump also forced the politicians to sh*t or git with regard to illegal immigration by implementing the policies Barack Obama and the Democrat leadership spoke of, but never followed through on. Now we see clearly that they were just mouthing platitudes to shut us up and had no intention of securing our border.

"Oh we'd loooove to see manufacturing come back to the US..." right up until the second that Trump started putting together policies to make it happen.

"We will forcibly take your guns," sez Democrat candidate Beto.....and not a one of them spoke up against that. Not the media, not his primary opponents, none of them.

They're not even pretending anymore, and we have Trump to thank for that because he calls them out every day. They've had no choice but to go balls to the wall and push their agenda openly and see what happens.

That you refuse to see it speaks volumes and clearly I was wrong about you. I thought you meant it when you said you were nonpartisan, and that was foolish of me. I won't make that mistake again.

Nothing you just typed points to "dismantling our elite untouchable government and media institutions".
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
1. We didn't have an illegal immigration issue until Trump created one with his idiotic and asinine "I'm gonna close the border" comments.


WTF are you talking about ' closing the border' created the Crisis ?

Fantasy, Supposition, Innuendo, ASSUMPTION


It Was Reported Smugglers were ADVERTISING ON THE LOCAL RADIO in Guatemala ginning up business
 

The Boss

Active Member
I heard after he gets Mexico to pay he is going to make Colorado pay for their Wall next.


Politics President Trump Says Colorado Is Getting a Border Wall

POTUS' Comments On 'Wall In Colorado' Draws Response



President Donald Trump’s boast of building part of the border wall in Colorado is garnering attention in the state, including from the state’s governor, Democrat Jared Polis.
 
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