What you just said ^^ is that you think We the People should roll over and let Big Government have its way without a fight and subjugate us as they see fit.
Why Trump?
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Can we riot here at home?
I'm really not feeling a trip to Cleveland.
This_person
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So, if I'm hearing correctly, the answer to "Why Trump?" is "He's a self-funding, obnoxious centrist who will hire smart people (because he's not good by himself) and probably won't be much worse than recent presidents."
No one can say, "his policy on ______ is really good."
No one can say, "his policy on ______ is really good."
We should probably stop at Fager's for drinks first, to get our "rowdy" up.
glhs837
Power with Control
Fixed that ferya. $5.99, see the nice lady at the counter.
And, he's not Cruz!
I don't follow. That's the working "model" for most every effective leader I can think of....
PsyOps
Pixelated
Are you really telling me you don't know what I'm talking about? Trump is anticipating a brokered convention; and his concerns aren't without merit.Get the nod? He is winning in number of delegates and the primaries are not done,yet!
PsyOps
Pixelated
No, I think you should riot.
glhs837
Power with Control
Yep, I've worked for smart people and good leaders, and in my best jobs, you get both in one person. But I'll take good leader over smart person for a boss. A good leader knows when he needs a smart person, a smart person doesn't always know when he needs a good leader. I hold up President Obama. By all accounts a very intelligent man. Seems to have a hard time finding good leaders to work for him.
Considering how desperately the GOP "elites" want that to happen....his concerns about that are certainly well founded.
Yeah..I wish I had a boss like that. But alas.....
kwillia
n/a
There are a lot of posts that show support and agreement with Trump's policies even though not regurgitated in this thread.
I know I agree with him that we should be capable of constructing a barrier to slow the flow of illegal entry into country and I agree that we can very well pay for it by moving funds over from the pot of money that we gift Mexico on a yearly basis.
I agree with Trump that we can start to reduce the criminal element in our country that is here illegally. And by starting with the thousands that have commited crimes in our country we don't have to put much more effort into time and money to evict them because we have already spent time and money on them when they were caught and deemed criminals.
I agree with Trump that when someone regardless of faith says, "I hate America. I want to kill Americans. I will commit criminal acts in America" we should take them at their word and they should not be allowed to come into our country and most certainly if they are already here they should be escorted out. No fancy lawyering needed... we won't argue with them and we won't let them suffer in such a horrid environment any longer.... ship them home.
I agree that Trump wants to see American business thrive again. I agree with him when he says that we need to start making stuff IN America again and I agree with him that we can change laws to make it enticing for businesses to want to have their businesses here and not overseas. Will this piss off other countries? Of course it will because they are getting filthy rich off of the wealth that used to reside here in America.
I could go on...
He is correct to anticipate a brokered convention, especially since it was the GOP leadership who first suggested that it was a possibility. And he is also correct that we shouldn't allow these people to get away with that crap.
PsyOps
Pixelated
I don't disagree with any of that. I'm just concerned he is telegraphing to his supporters to riot if it goes this way. He's already advocated violence regarding protesters.
Midnightrider
Well-Known Member
Watch him. The wall, Mexico paying for it, and deporting illegals, will all be walked back to a more reasonable position.
Ban Muslims, build the wall, deportation are all pretty far right. True conservatives aren't voting for trump, but that doesn't mean trump isn't selling far right talking points.
Midnightrider
Well-Known Member
Why shouldn't they follow the rules and recast their ballots if DJT doesn't get the required number?
Those were the rules before the process started.
This_person
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This_person
Well-Known Member
I think good presidents have good vision, good policies, and hire people to carry that out.
What is Trump's good vision? What are his good policies?