Wildewood Pool

MMM_donuts

New Member
I jog past the Wildewood pool each day and it looks like a nice place. I've looked online for information about it and came across this website:

wildewoodcommunitypool.com

I have some questions about it. How do you know if you're a member of the WCA and are authorized to use the pool? Does it apply to everyone that lives in Wildewood or does the fact that I don't know mean I likely don't have access to it? And how would I know whether my HOA pays the $400/summer pool fee or if I would be expected to do so (apparently their rates skyrocketed this year, presumably becuase of all the recent additions)?

I'm asking because I'd really like to use the pool if I'm already paying for it. If I'm not paying for it, $400 seems awfully steep and $600 for not being a member of the WCA is just out of the question.

I've emailed them, called the pool's phone #, AND called the Main Office phone # a few times- and never gotten an answer from any of them. Not even the operator at the Main Office. Is this how the WCA runs things or am I doing something wrong? Would someone please help me out?
 

getbent

Thats how them b*tch's R
I think it's an additional fee not included in any HOA. One of my co-workers lives there. I'll ask her if that's true. Give me a sec (unless someone verifies it before she's available).
 

getbent

Thats how them b*tch's R
ok, she lives in the old section and that's an extra fee. new sections it's included with your HOA's.
 

ebs

New Member
It depends what neighborhood you live in - I know in my neighborhood, we pay HOA dues to our neighborhood and part goes to the WCA, so we pay the membership fee for the pool at the reduced rate. Other neighborhoods that did not join the WCA have to pay the higher rate. The membership to the pool is extra, paid by the individual homeowners who choose to join the pool.

I think the newest neighborhoods built under the new developer (Dahlia Park, etc) have something built into their mortgage. The people in the Navy housing have a different arrangement through their organization.

If you live in the apartments or townhouses in the older sections up by 235, you do not have access to the pool in the back (at least, did not in prior years).

Also forgot to add - if the fee is $400, that is the same as we paid last year. They may have raised rates for the non-WCA members.
 
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BernieP

Resident PIA
I think it's an additional fee not included in any HOA. One of my co-workers lives there. I'll ask her if that's true. Give me a sec (unless someone verifies it before she's available).

Rules have changed, it use to be if you were a charter member you got a lower rate, that's been taken away. Any member of the WCA can join. You can contact your HOA for information of the people at Pecan Court. Sorry, don't have that contact information.

What I understand is that only community 1 opted out of the WCA, all other neighborhood HOA's are part of the WCA

Meaning that there are way to many people and limited access to the pool. Pool is closed on swim meet nights. Pool is alos subject to closure when baby leave a Baby Ruth bar behind.

Those of use with Charter Membership got screwed. It went from being something to nothing when the development was sold to the current developer.
 

slseaweed

New Member
If you haven't received any information yet, than you are probably not a member. Last years members have received information on hours, dates open, etc.
 
Rules have changed, it use to be if you were a charter member you got a lower rate, that's been taken away. Any member of the WCA can join. You can contact your HOA for information of the people at Pecan Court. Sorry, don't have that contact information.

What I understand is that only community 1 opted out of the WCA, all other neighborhood HOA's are part of the WCA

Meaning that there are way to many people and limited access to the pool. Pool is closed on swim meet nights. Pool is alos subject to closure when baby leave a Baby Ruth bar behind.

Those of use with Charter Membership got screwed. It went from being something to nothing when the development was sold to the current developer.

I live in one of the neighborhoods who opted out of the WCA. I believe there may be a couple more. Although we can still join the pool on a yearly basis, the cost is higher. When we bought here in 1999, the charter membership transferred as part of our deed and will transfer whenever we decide to sell.

You're right about too many people! Hence, the "new" pool going in. At the rate they're continuing to build, there will have to be another one built within the next 5 years.
 

ebs

New Member
Yes, but the charter memberships don't mean anything anymore. We have one too, does us no good.
 
Yes, but the charter memberships don't mean anything anymore. We have one too, does us no good.

Our charter membership still has meaning; it is part of our deed. WCA cannot declare someone's deed null and void! They would like you to think so, but, why do you think some non-WCA members are still allowed to join the pool every year?
 

ebs

New Member
Because they pay more? I know people who are in a non-WCA neighborhood and do not have charter memberships, but they pay the higher fee and join the pool anyway. They cannot prevent you from joining the pool if you are a homeowner, but they can make you pay more. The developer didn't declare the charters null and void, they just stated they would not honor the charters when determining who would have access to the pool - they can make more money by letting everyone in and just charging them higher fees. That is my understanding. So I have a nice certificate for my lot and I pay neighborhood HOA and WCA dues, but I still pay the same rate as everyone else in the WCA for a pool membership. Do you get anything from your charter membership? If I am missing out, I'd like to know!

I looked at my paperwork - in 2005, the pool was $415 for charter members with first dibs on membership and $585 for non-charters on a first come, first serve basis if there were space available. In 2006, it changed to $400 for WCA members with previous memberships and $550 for non-WCA members with previous memberships, with the additional asterisked information that "Charter and non-Charter members are afforded pool membership for 2006 at the above-referenced rates." They also charged more for new families. So the criterion became not the existence of a charter membership but WCA status.
 
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MMM_donuts

New Member
I finally got ahold of someone.

I randomly call the number that's listed in the newsletter (301-866-9420 ext 208) each week. Sometimes I call the operator and try to be redirected to anyone else that might be able to answer my questions. I have emailed as far back as December but that has never yielded any responses. Just for the record, I assumed that if I just kept calling randomly each week, eventually I would be able to speak with someone.

This time I told the operator (Denise) that she has directed me to a number that no one ever answers and asked that she direct my call to someone else that might. So she directed my call to Iris, which is the same person that I've been trying to get in touch with but always get her voicemail. This time, clearly a different number.

Our conversation did not start off well. She asked me about calling so many times and I told her about all the calls. She told me that I obviously hadn't been leaving messages because she hadn't gotten any. I told her that I hadn't been leaving messages, just trying to call to which she replied in a very snarky manner "well what do you expect if you haven't been leaving any messages?" Naturally, I replied, "I expected you to eventually answer your phone". And she says "Well I'm not going to be at my desk 8hrs a day, every day of the week." :duh: Obviously I didn't want to talk to her on her time, I wanted to to talk to her on my time. Besides, I wasn't complaining, short, or snippy, just pursuing another avenue to get the information I was looking for.

Anyways. She confirmed that my neighborhood is not apart of the Wildewood Community Association. In order to become a member of the WCA, my HOA would have to vote on it (majority rules) and request to become a member. She said they would then look into any back dues we might owe since they've extended the opportunity for us to be a member for like 8 years now. I don't really know what all the back dues stuff is about because we moved on quickly and I forgot to go back and ask. But then, again for my neighborhood, if we wanted to be a member just for 2012, the HOA would have to collect $84.23/per unit/per month for the year. That would give us access to the club building, the tennis courts, and the pool. To actually use the pool each house would also have to pay an additional $400 for this season (she also said the % increase each year is 5% when she was talking about back dues).

Or I could just pay the $600 for a season of membership without being a member of the WCA.

$600 would cover everyone in my house but since I'm the only person that would use it....well, I just can't justify spending that kind of money on going to the pool when there are so many cheaper options out there that would just require a teense more effort on my part. It's a good looking pool though. I'll just have to sigh quietly to myself each time I jog past, smell the cholorine, and remind myself that I've deemed it to be unworthy of my moneys.

$84 is more than we currently pay each month for our HOA so that definitely won't fly. And again, even $400 is pushing it for a pool membership for one person, imo. The clubhouse and tennis courts are ok but they aren't anything I'd be willing to double my HOA payments for.

I'll just save my $600/year, move out of Wildewood someday, and get my own pool.
 
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