Will the cartels FAFO?

stgislander

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I stole this response to the cartels from Angry Cops.
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vraiblonde

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The short answer is no.

I know you guys don't believe me but it's true - these "leaders" are being paid by the cartels. Have you ever known a politician to turn down millions of dollars? So there's something else in the works to keep these guys in business. The Mexican president didn't just go, "Oh well, okay, we'll put a stop to this multi-billion dollar business, our main export, and how I buy my mansions." The Colombian guy didn't just go, "Ah, ya got me. Okay, fine, I'll recall my couriers."

It's stunning to me that there's such a market for hard drugs that can kill you, and at the very least will destroy your life. I'm not an addict and I don't know anyone who is, but apparently there's an enormous market for it.

Also sex trafficking - I don't know anyone who does that, but apparently it's insanely popular. And that sht's expensive, so you know it's the rich elite partaking.

But if I know this, Trump knows it. So we'll see where he goes from here.
 

Clem72

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The short answer is no.

I know you guys don't believe me but it's true - these "leaders" are being paid by the cartels. Have you ever known a politician to turn down millions of dollars? So there's something else in the works to keep these guys in business. The Mexican president didn't just go, "Oh well, okay, we'll put a stop to this multi-billion dollar business, our main export, and how I buy my mansions." The Colombian guy didn't just go, "Ah, ya got me. Okay, fine, I'll recall my couriers."

It's stunning to me that there's such a market for hard drugs that can kill you, and at the very least will destroy your life. I'm not an addict and I don't know anyone who is, but apparently there's an enormous market for it.

Also sex trafficking - I don't know anyone who does that, but apparently it's insanely popular. And that sht's expensive, so you know it's the rich elite partaking.

But if I know this, Trump knows it. So we'll see where he goes from here.
One thing they don't really point out in the movies and TV shows are that the cartels are multinational, and mobile. It's always been a game of whack-a-mole where we focus on a country and they pickup shop and leave. They aren't dumb, if they believe they are going to face sufficient local political pushback or even direct conflict from the US in Mexico and Colombia, then they will go where there is less pressure.
 

vraiblonde

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One thing they don't really point out in the movies and TV shows are that the cartels are multinational, and mobile. It's always been a game of whack-a-mole where we focus on a country and they pickup shop and leave. They aren't dumb, if they believe they are going to face sufficient local political pushback or even direct conflict from the US in Mexico and Colombia, then they will go where there is less pressure.

It's interesting who specifically is wailing about securing our border so these shitbags don't get in. Who is crying over the drug and child sex traffickers being kicked out. That thing with Selena Gomez, she looked for all the world like she was in serious drug withdrawal, and we know all these celebrities pop pills and inject themselves with drugs to stay nice and consumptive looking. That's why they're always being hospitalized for "exhaustion". We know a disproportionate number of Hollyweirds are pedophiles.

Because they're wealthy and have a high profile, politicians want their endorsement. So how far will they go to get it, especially when they can get rich, too?

I don't think, say, Nancy Pelosi is a drug trafficker or a pedophile, but I definitely think she's being paid by the traffickers to keep them in business. That's just as bad, and probably worse because she's an elected leader of this country. We don't expect loyalty and responsibility from dumb ass Madonna, but we do expect that from our elected officials.
 

limblips

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The short answer is no.

I know you guys don't believe me but it's true - these "leaders" are being paid by the cartels. Have you ever known a politician to turn down millions of dollars? So there's something else in the works to keep these guys in business. The Mexican president didn't just go, "Oh well, okay, we'll put a stop to this multi-billion dollar business, our main export, and how I buy my mansions." The Colombian guy didn't just go, "Ah, ya got me. Okay, fine, I'll recall my couriers."
In the 90's we were fighting the drug war in Colombia. The Colombian government was in on it. The producers would be notified ahead of time of a raid. They would move all but a small portion of their operation and lose it. It was a cost of doing business. It was also a great way for the Colombian government to show how the US dollars were really fighting the drug trade. Next week it would be another pre-notified raid and rinse, wash, repeat. Our own government knew what they were doing but it made for good optics to the citizens. It is the same today but on an order of magnitude larger. Trump just may be the one to stop it.
 

SamSpade

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I do think that in some of the nations where the cartels are strong - it's like cities from the 30's and mob control - sometimes the cops and city government are corrupt - but mainly it's because the mob was so deadly and ubiquitous - you didn't dare fight them, for fear of your life.

They cooperate partly because they're corrupt - but also because they don't have a lot of choice.

Treating them as terrorist organizations opens them up to military intervention instead of merely reacting to them as law enforcement.

As for fentanyl -

I'm sure people here already know this - but they do use it in hospitals and doctor's offices and such - my daughter had fentanyl in one of her recent hospital visits - it IS used and is perfectly safe in small enough doses. The danger as we know now is that drug dealers will lace their product with fentanyl because it's cheaper - but they're not as much concerned with SAFETY.
 

SamSpade

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In the 90's we were fighting the drug war in Colombia. The Colombian government was in on it. The producers would be notified ahead of time of a raid. They would move all but a small portion of their operation and lose it. It was a cost of doing business. It was also a great way for the Colombian government to show how the US dollars were really fighting the drug trade. Next week it would be another pre-notified raid and rinse, wash, repeat. Our own government knew what they were doing but it made for good optics to the citizens. It is the same today but on an order of magnitude larger. Trump just may be the one to stop it.
It's my impression from my Colombian SIL that the cartels basically run the country.
 

Squiddie

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There is so much money to be made from the drug trafficking industry that it has the power to strong-arm less stable countries like Mexico and Colombia through blackmail and violence.

Keep in mind that Pablo Escobar was making an estimated 420 million per week from the drug trade, and this was in the late 80s. Imagine how much the cartels make now with more efficient methods of making and selling illegal substances.
 
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