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GURPS

INGSOC
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Windows 10 May Punt You From Playing Pirated Games


Have you read through the End User License Agreement (EULA) for Windows 10? If not, you might be in for a surprise if Microsoft decides to follow through terms outlined in Section 7b, which warns that Windows 10 can automatically check for and block access to illegal software, including counterfeit games, and unauthorized hardware.

Have a look:

Sometimes you’ll need software updates to keep using the Services. We may automatically check your version of the software and download software updates or configuration changes, including those that prevent you from accessing the Services, playing counterfeit games, or using unauthorized hardware peripheral devices. You may also be required to update the software to continue using the Services. Such updates are subject to these Terms unless other terms accompany the updates, in which case, those other terms apply. Microsoft isn’t obligated to make any updates available and we don’t guarantee that we will support the version of the system for which you licensed the software.

These terms don't just apply to Windows 10, they also cover other Microsoft services and software, such as Skype, Office 365, Xbox Live, and several more.

As pointed out by Alphr, which first noticed the above section in the updated EULA, the wording is not entirely clear. Obviously Microsoft is taking a stand against software piracy, and specifically games (it's not known how Windows 10 might handle cracked versions of programs like Photoshop), but the bit about "unauthorized hardware peripheral devices" is wide open. It could refer to modified or third-party Xbox One controllers, as well several other possibilities.



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fung0 Xenite227 . • 11 hours ago
You don't need a tinfoil hat to see what Microsoft is doing - all you have to do is pay attention. All the privacy violations, the forced updates, the amazingly draconian EULA(s), the new iOS-style UWP apps, the exclusive Windows Store, the Xbox integration, even the free OS giveaway - they add up to just one thing. Windows 10 is fundamentally eliminating the 'personal' in 'personal computer.' Microsoft is taking control of the PC, turning it into a tethered device like a smartphone or tablet.

If you think about it, that's pretty much what "Windows as a Service" means. The only thing it can mean. If it's not a product, you can't own it. And since your PC kind of is Windows, you don't really own that either. Right now, you're still paying up-front for the hardware. But it's just a matter of time before you see PCs with Windows sold 'on contract' like phones. (People used to buy mobile phones too, early on.)

Remember, what you're seeing so far is just the initial release. Microsoft has given itself both the permissions (EULAs) and the technical means (forced updates) to evolve the OS any way they like. Sign up now, we'll take good care of you!

Sorry - I've been a Windows fan for decades, but this isn't what I signed up for. I want a computer on my desk, not some kind of 'connected appliance,' that puts Microsoft's wishes ahead of mine. I know a lot of people can't see the distinction, but it's not really that subtle if you think about it for a minute.
 

PeoplesElbow

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But it's just a matter of time before you see PCs with Windows sold 'on contract' like phones. (People used to buy mobile phones too, early on.)

People still do buy mobile phones, I buy mine outright. (and end up saving a couple hundred per year) The whole "free phone on contract" thing is just a trick to get people to pay more because they are getting something free.
 
People still do buy mobile phones, I buy mine outright. (and end up saving a couple hundred per year) The whole "free phone on contract" thing is just a trick to get people to pay more because they are getting something free.

Most carriers are now moving away from contracts anyway. Verizon just did as of last thursday. You can keep your legacy plan or switch to a monthly plan. New customers get monthly plans only.
 

Bobwhite

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People still do buy mobile phones, I buy mine outright. (and end up saving a couple hundred per year) The whole "free phone on contract" thing is just a trick to get people to pay more because they are getting something free.

I heard on Fox News yesterday that Verizon and AT&T are no longer using contracts. T-Mobile had already started doing that.

So I guess this offer I got yesterday to reserve Windows 10 for free was legit?
 
So I guess this offer I got yesterday to reserve Windows 10 for free was legit?

You don't need a reservation anymore, that was being used before Windows 10 was released. It has since been released, so you can get Windows 10 via System Update on your computer.
 

Bobwhite

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You don't need a reservation anymore, that was being used before Windows 10 was released. It has since been released, so you can get Windows 10 via System Update on your computer.

After reading this conversation, I'm thinking I don't want it.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
I don't know about phones, but there is a registry key you can add to get 10 now ....
 

mitzi

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I have a question and hope someone can help me. I have changed my mind and don't want to install it. Now when I go to Windows Updates I can't download the updates for Windows 7. I like to choose what I install. I have unchecked install Windows 10 and when I click to download what I want, it starts downloading Windows 10. I don't want it!!! Anyone know how I can fix this to stop it?
 
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DEEKAYPEE8569

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I have a question and hope someone can help me. I have changed my mind and don't want to install it. Now when I go to Windows Updates I can't download the updates for Windows 7. I like to choose what I install. I have unchecked install Windows 10 and when I click to download what I want, it starts downloading Windows 10. I don't want it!!! Anyone know how I can fix this to stop it?

You may have to do a complete re-install of Windows 7.
 

mitzi

Well-Known Member
You may have to do a complete re-install of Windows 7.

I'm still running 7, I cancel the 10 install as soon as it starts. My issue is now I can't even download my updates for 7 because the Microsoft site keeps trying to install 10 and I can't get rid of it. Thanks for your reply. I wish I'd never requested it now!
 

Misfit

Lawful neutral
I'm still running 7, I cancel the 10 install as soon as it starts. My issue is now I can't even download my updates for 7 because the Microsoft site keeps trying to install 10 and I can't get rid of it. Thanks for your reply. I wish I'd never requested it now!

Can I ask why you don't want it?
 

DEEKAYPEE8569

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I'm still running 7, I cancel the 10 install as soon as it starts. My issue is now I can't even download my updates for 7 because the Microsoft site keeps trying to install 10 and I can't get rid of it. Thanks for your reply. I wish I'd never requested it now!
Uuummm.....you're welcome?
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Fear it's going to mess things up.



were you having problems with 7 - Slow Computer, crashes, BSOD ?

if not then you will most likely NOT have issues with 10


I have upgraded 3 laptops so far all work fine for the basic things I have done so far
 

mitzi

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were you having problems with 7 - Slow Computer, crashes, BSOD ?

if not then you will most likely NOT have issues with 10


I have upgraded 3 laptops so far all work fine for the basic things I have done so far

No problems at all. I think that's why I'm afraid it will mess things up.
 
I have a question and hope someone can help me. I have changed my mind and don't want to install it. Now when I go to Windows Updates I can't download the updates for Windows 7. I like to choose what I install. I have unchecked install Windows 10 and when I click to download what I want, it starts downloading Windows 10. I don't want it!!! Anyone know how I can fix this to stop it?

The update that added the Win10 offer was KB3035582.
 

mitzi

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mitzi try this link out, it takes you to multiple links that talk about deselecting windows 10 update

I looks like you forgot to attached the link. I hope you see this post and can give me the link again. Thanks!
 

Misfit

Lawful neutral
Fear it's going to mess things up.

I was worried too, but so far I haven't had any issues (custom settings) and I really like how it looks. I like my desktop minimalistic. My only complaint, and it's a small one is Microsoft edge. I haven't been able to make it open to my home page, it opens to the Microsoft edge homepage and then I have to click home.
 
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