Yield to landing aircraft!

[MMDad]

I've worked at Webster Field on and off for more than 14 years. There has always been a sign that says "yield to landing aircraft". Today was the first time I have ever needed to yield, and the idiot behind me laid on his horn. The plane was no more than 20 feet above the runway.

So, those of you who work down there, how often do you have to yield?

 

[RoseRed]

I've worked at Webster Field on and off for more than 14 years. There has always been a sign that says "yield to landing aircraft". Today was the first time I have ever needed to yield, and the idiot behind me laid on his horn. The plane was no more than 20 feet above the runway.

So, those of you who work down there, how often do you have to yield?

Ask Rose Emory. Oh ya, you can't... besides, that was at Pax if I remember correctly. :sad:

 

[chess]

I saw the plan landing today at WF... I have never had to yield but i se idiots not yielding... btw which building do you work in ?

8185 here

 

[willie]

I've worked at Webster Field on and off for more than 14 years. There has always been a sign that says "yield to landing aircraft". Today was the first time I have ever needed to yield, and the idiot behind me laid on his horn. The plane was no more than 20 feet above the runway.

So, those of you who work down there, how often do you have to yield?

I would guess, once every 14 years.

 

[MMDad]

Ask Rose Emory. Oh ya, you can't... besides, that was at Pax if I remember correctly. :sad:

Was she the one at Pax about 10 years ago? If I remember right, she was just sitting there ........

 

[RoseRed]

Was she the one at Pax about 10 years ago? If I remember right, she was just sitting there ........

Sounds right...

 

[itsbob]

Bldg 8271, and whatever the building number is for the LSTF at PAX..

Depending on what they/ we are doing that day, could be once or twice a day.

Had TWO experiences at PAX.. pick-up dirver california stopped the sign nearest the Bay, and almost took an F-18 rear wheel into the cab, as it was I'd be surprised he didn't have rubber on his hood.

Second, one of the guys I work with, stopped, checked high along the glide slope, saw that it was clear, and five Blues Angels almost took him out approaching the runway at wave top height.

At Webster sometimes they come in REAL shallow to that end of the runway, and have had to yield several times in the three years I've been here.

 

[MMDad]

Sounds right...

That was about as bad as it gets. Pilot finds a relatively safe place to bail out, and he has no way to know there was a bystander in the way. That really sucked.

Today, a co-worker told me that Pax hasn't had a flight fatality in more than 20 years. I told him about the one we just mentioned, as well as the TPS T-38 crash and the TPS formation flight crash a few years ago. It's amazing how fast people forget the sacrifices others give.

 

[RoseRed]

I believe that a commercial acft once landed on station too, along time ago. Ken would probably know those stories better than I.

 

[itsbob]

I believe that a commercial acft once landed on station too, along time ago. Ken would probably know those stories better than I.

Got a better one then that, told by the cowrker that was there testing a new landing radar..

Here he was in his "hut" near the Cat at night, when he hears a small aircraft outside. he walks outside as the engine shuts down and the pilot walks over.. he's lost, has NO idea where he is when he saw the runway lights, he lands and taxis around for quite awhile looking for life, and gettting lost again on our runway, when he sees the lights from the cat and sees life stirring aound our shelter... he's a student pilot on his solo flight and lands on a navy base about 150 miles South of where he is supposed to be, what was interesting.. No lights, no sirens, nothing but dead silence.. co-worker explains to him he two choices, take back off and head north since nobody knows he's here anyways, or call flight ops tell them the situation and let the chips fall where they may.

Well they called flight ops, and I think it was 3 or 4 days later when he got to take off again WITH his flight instructor.

 

[MMDad]

I believe that a commercial acft once landed on station too, along time ago. Ken would probably know those stories better than I.

I work with a guy that was with GEMD back then. It was a Canadian Airlines plane, I believe a 727. Nobody hurt, but he said the passengers were extrememly pissed that there were no hotels back then!

 

[MMDad]

I work with a guy that was with GEMD back then. It was a Canadian Airlines plane, I believe a 727. Nobody hurt, but he said the passengers were extrememly pissed that there were no hotels back then!

NTSB Identification: BFO85IA024 .
The docket is stored on NTSB microfiche number 28023.
Scheduled 14 CFR Part 129: Foreign AIR CANADA
Incident occurred Monday, March 04, 1985 in PATUXENT RIVER, MD
Aircraft: Lockheed L-1011, registration: CFTNE
Injuries: 2 Minor, 276 Uninjured.
WHILE ENROUTE FM FT LAUDERDALE, FL TO MONTREAL, CANADA, AIR CANADA FLT 087 REQUESTED TO MAKE AN UNSCHEDULED LNDG DUE TO SMOKE IN THE REAR OF THE ACFT. C-FTNE WAS VECTORED TO PATUXENT RVR NAS, PATUXENT, MD AND DESCENDED OUT OF FL 370. THE SMOKE WAS DETERMINED TO BE ORIGINATING FM A BLACK BOX IN AN OVERHEAD BIN LOCATED ABOVE SEAT #42. ATMPS WERE MADE DRNG THE DSCNT TO IDENTIFY THE BOX AND FIND THE APPROPRIATE CIRCUIT BREAKERS BUT WERE UNSUCCESSFUL DUE TO LACK OF LABEL ON THE BOX AND OTHER DUTIES OF THE CREW DRNG DSCNT. THE ACFT LNDD W/O INCIDENT AT PXT NAS AT 2306 HOURS EST ON MARCH 4, 1985, AND THE CPT RPTD THAT THE SMOKE STOPPED WHILE TAXIING TO PKG. INVESTIGATION REVEALED THAT THE SMOKE ORIGINATED FROM THE EMGCY PWR PACK WHICH CONTROLS THE EMGCY LIGHTING SYSTEM. A CASE TO CASE ELECTRICAL SHORT BETWEEN 2 ADJACENT CELLS IN THE SELF CONTAINED PACK RESULTED IN OVERHEATING. THIS WAS TRANSFERRED TO THE POLYETHYLENE TAPE USED TO HOLD THE 24 CELLS TOGETHER. AN INTERNAL FUSE IN THE BATTERY CHARGING CIRCUIT WAS FOUND POPPED.


The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this incident as follows:

EMERGENCY LIGHT(S)..SHORTED
EMERGENCY LIGHT(S)..OVERTEMPERATURE

 

[tomchamp]

The accident your refering to had nothing to do with failure to "Yield to (landing)
aircraft". I knew her sister. The women was killed by an F-18 that just took off from TC-7 and lost control, went inverted and just by chance hit a van on the airfield..

 

[MMDad]

The accident your refering to had nothing to do with failure to "Yield to (landing)
aircraft". I knew her sister. The women was killed by an F-18 that just took off from TC-7 and lost control, went inverted and just by chance hit a van on the airfield..

Wrong. Opposite end of the runway from TC-7.

 

[itsbob]

Tc 187??

 

[tomchamp]

Wrong. Opposite end of the runway from TC-7.

If it just got "shot" from TC-7(approach end of 32). That would be the opposite
end. Where was the van?

 

[vraiblonde]

I've never had to yield to the aircraft, but I used to live right on the flight path. That's why it aggravates me when folks get on here and complain about "the sound of freedom". I actually kind of miss it.

 

[MMDad]

If it just got "shot" from TC-7(approach end of 32). That would be the opposite
end. Were was the van?

It was a Ford truck near the shooting range down past TPS. If you look close, you can still see the ground scar. Where are you talking about?

 

[tomchamp]

It was a Ford truck near the shooting range down past TPS. If you look close, you can still see the ground scar. Where are you talking about?

Right...The plane was taking off on 32. The opposite end of 32 is 14...which just happens to be right at the shooting range...I remember the accident.

 

[tomchamp]

Read your posts, then tell me. If it was shot from TC-7, how did it turn around 180 degrees, fly almost a mile, and then crash parallel to the runway? That is not what happened.

It didn't turn 180...it just crashed at the other end of the same runway...it was still heading on a 320 degree course and the vehicle it was at the opposite end of that runway. Which would be 140 degrees.

BTW..I don't racall if it was a "Cat-Shot" or not. But that's the runway it took off from. Any plane that does take off from TC-7 would be on the same course. 320!