"You can go to live in France...
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This_person
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Reagan was right. It's too bad our immigration policy is to select some over others in the interest of "diversity" instead of the value that they bring, and others choose to violate our sovereignty
Chris doesn't give a crap about that as long as they bring him some of the good drugs when they get here.
BOP
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Put down the crack pipe, Chris.
SamSpade
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I've been repeating this idea for decades - and it still falls on deaf ears. Being American is about an idea - whereas being Japanese or Korean or Chinese is about DNA. Being French is about culture, as is being German or British. You can live in a Jewish neighborhood all your life, but you're still goy; live your whole childhood in Japan, you're still gaijin. Russians are Rus; in Scotland, they're Scots. And it doesn't matter who your ancestors are, you will NEVER be one of them.
I had a friend in Massachusetts who worked all around the world but largely in Papua New Guinea. He helped with languages especially those that had no WRITTEN language. The people loved him - but if he spent his life and died there, he'd STILL be an outsider. Because that's where the line is drawn.
America changes all that. My three children are all from different nations, but they are definitely American, even while being proud of their ancestry. We used to tease our youngest that we weren't feeding her to make her healthy, we were fattening her up so we could have Chinese dinner. She shot back "well I'm AMERICAN now, so you'll have to settle for AMERICAN food!". America is an idea - you don't have to be some tribe or belief or whatever. You can all become American.
HOWEVER -
You have to BECOME American. You have to love what it loves, and be proud of your chosen country. Becoming American isn't like joining the Elks. You change who you are, you don't insist everyone else become LIKE YOU, and you sure don't decide "I'm living here, but if the sh@t should hit the fan, I'm fightin' for my old country." I've met people like that - families that forbid their kids to celebrate Halloween or Thanksgiving, because "that's American, and you're not American".
Of all the dangers this nation faces - I do believe this is the greatest. Loss of identity.
Reagan wasn't saying everyone can come here at any time of their own choosing. He was saying if you want to become American, race or DNA or religion or all that isn't going to be a problem. You can't "become" Japanese but you can become an American if you embrace what America IS.
And I don't think a lot of these voices are embracing America at all. Heck, we had a town trying to forbid saying the Pledge of Allegiance.
I had a friend in Massachusetts who worked all around the world but largely in Papua New Guinea. He helped with languages especially those that had no WRITTEN language. The people loved him - but if he spent his life and died there, he'd STILL be an outsider. Because that's where the line is drawn.
America changes all that. My three children are all from different nations, but they are definitely American, even while being proud of their ancestry. We used to tease our youngest that we weren't feeding her to make her healthy, we were fattening her up so we could have Chinese dinner. She shot back "well I'm AMERICAN now, so you'll have to settle for AMERICAN food!". America is an idea - you don't have to be some tribe or belief or whatever. You can all become American.
HOWEVER -
You have to BECOME American. You have to love what it loves, and be proud of your chosen country. Becoming American isn't like joining the Elks. You change who you are, you don't insist everyone else become LIKE YOU, and you sure don't decide "I'm living here, but if the sh@t should hit the fan, I'm fightin' for my old country." I've met people like that - families that forbid their kids to celebrate Halloween or Thanksgiving, because "that's American, and you're not American".
Of all the dangers this nation faces - I do believe this is the greatest. Loss of identity.
Reagan wasn't saying everyone can come here at any time of their own choosing. He was saying if you want to become American, race or DNA or religion or all that isn't going to be a problem. You can't "become" Japanese but you can become an American if you embrace what America IS.
And I don't think a lot of these voices are embracing America at all. Heck, we had a town trying to forbid saying the Pledge of Allegiance.
Bravo!!! Bravissimo!!! Bravolingus!!!
transporter
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Are you seriously not paying attention??????
We didn't have 100k+ until Feb of this year. I posted the chart from the Trump Administration yesterday.
There WAS NO CRISIS TILL TRUMP CREATED ONE!
WTF don't you understand about this?
Should we have 100k+ folks crossing illegally. No. And WE DIDN'T...UNTIL TRUMP!! TRUMP'S asinine comments and tweets...his idiotic cutting off of aid assured this result.
Our issues with Nork...our current issues with Iran...the problems at the southern border...our farmers unable to sell their crops...Maine lobstermen losing a prime market for their crop...steel mills shutting down...there is one common cog that connects all these wheels...Trump. The man doesn't have a god damned clue about what he is doing or the impacts his action will have. None.
Comrade GURPS keeps claiming Trump is playing 4d chess...Trump can't count that high!
Apparently You Are Not.
Be Specific - How exactly did Trump ' create ' the crisis ?
Look in the mirror and ask that question.
Yeah Trump is the Problem [see above]
With half as many illegals crossing Obama was giving speeches in 2014 about a ' crisis
Nancy Pelosi Calls The Humanitarian Crisis At The US Border An 'Opportunity'
How is cutting off Aid the cause of an uptick in illegal immigrants - Be Specific
Hijinx
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LOL If you weren't born in St. Mary's County you will always be a furriner.
Chris0nllyn
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What meaning did I post or ellude to in this thread?
kwillia
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I formed an opinion that this was a continuation of your stance we do not need to secure our borders and were using this statement to imply Reagan agreed. But you know that based on my questions which requested elaboration of your thought process.
Since you didn't truly need me to tell you that, I'm now of the opinion you asked this particular question to make another point.
Chris0nllyn
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When did I say we shouldn't secure our border? That's a real question and I'd love for someone to point it out.
You're right though. I originally posted it because I just came across it and thought it was a nice speech by a President who has the ability to harness and use the English language effectively. Then I sat back as yourself, and others with preconceived notions not based on any reality and formed, not by reading my actual posts, but in your minds because you want my replies to be something they are not. I guess the point now is to show off the people who clearly have paid no attention to the substance of my posts and only aim to be the edgiest, coolest, person on this forum.
I can't think of another reason a group of presuambly educated adults on a discussion forum choose to ignore the actual discussion.
...for the umpteen millionth time..you insist your shiddy communication skillz are everyone else's fault..
Chris0nllyn
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When did I say we shouldn't secure our border?