You Gotta Love The Irony

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Bruzilla

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http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/10/15/nazi.march/

TOLEDO, Ohio (CNN) -- A neo-Nazi group's scheduled march against "black crime" in Toledo, Ohio, sparked rioting Saturday afternoon.

The Nazi march was called off, and none of the National Socialist Movement group's 80 members who showed up to participate was arrested, White said.

Hours later, aerial video showed people vandalizing buildings and setting fire to a two-story building that apparently housed a bar, Toledo police spokeswoman Capt. Diana Ruiz-Krause told CNN.

At least 150 officers from various units -- some on horseback, bicycles and in riot gear -- were on the scene. The city's police chief said his officers showed "considerable restraint" after being pelted with rocks and bottles for "considerable hours."

"We could have made a couple hundred arrests," he said.

Ruiz-Krause blamed the mayhem on a disorganized group of the community's youth.

Most of the violence happened when residents, who had pelted the Nazi marchers with bottles and rocks, took out their anger on police, said Brian Jagodzinski, chief news photographer for CNN affiliate WTVG.

Video showed crowds at around 2:25 p.m. using bats to bring down a wooden fence as looters broke into a small grocery store.

Around 3 p.m., crowds of young men pelted the outside of a two-story residence with rocks, smashed out the windows with wooden crates, ran inside and threw out the furniture and lamps from the upper-level windows to the sidewalk below. No police were on the scene.

About 10 minutes later, the building's second story was in flames as a crowd of people watched.

When police arrived, they used pepper spray on counter-demonstrators and shot tear gas containers into the crowd, Jagodzinski said.

He added that his news van and a police car had windows smashed and doors bent back.

I love this story. All of the blame is being heaped on the Nazis, who didn't even march, and the cops because they didn't arrest the Nazis for exercising their rights. No blame is placed on the thugs out looting and setting a house on fire and watching it burn.

I don't recall a lot of white people looting, burning, and throwing stones at cops during the Millions More March. :confused:
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
Bruzilla said:
I don't recall a lot of white people looting, burning, and throwing stones at cops during the Millions More March. :confused:
The neo-Nazis just wanted to provoke people, and right now they are probably lapping this stuff up.

The best statement by the counter-protesters would have been to just turn their backs on the march.

And if that didn't work, they could call Jake and Elwood. :lol:
 
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Bruzilla

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I think their best reaction would have been to look at them and laugh, but anything is preferrable to making a march that didn't happen into another excuse to riot, loot, and destroy property and generally behave like the people the Nazis said they were.
 

Hessian

Well-Known Member
So...

when a community denies a parade/demonstration permit to a National Socialist group....who do they fear more? the Nazis or the counter riot that will surely follow?

At what time can a police force simply decide: "We will not be enforcing the law when urban thugs riot.?"

Both questions strengthen the case for the Nazis. Hitler entered CZECH and Austria claiming that chaos and disorder and abuse of Nazi supporters.

The residents of Toledo just made a wonderful argument for the cause.
 

Toxick

Splat
Fascists versus Nazis.


I say let both groups run rampid though the streets of Toledo, Ohio, doing whatever they want to each other, and solve both problems at once.
 
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Bruzilla

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That's why I'm glad I live in such a Republican enclave. I've witnessed Klansmen collecting money on one side of a highway, while the UNCF collects on the other. And it's really funny to see klansmen in their robes sharing a water jug with black kids collecting for the UNCF and chatting away. No screaming, looting, or rioting.
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
Bruzilla said:
And it's really funny to see klansmen in their robes sharing a water jug with black kids collecting for the UNCF and chatting away. No screaming, looting, or rioting.
I can see the humor in that. But I can also imagine the black parents or Jewish parents fearing that the Klansmen might be slipping poisoned water to their kids. Would that be a reasonable fear?
 

Terps

New Member
I don't think the riot should be blamed on them but why put fear in others and have a march. Hatred runs so thick in our society, man, everyone just needs to be peaceful and embrace socities differences. Rioting and Looting and marching are not needed.
 
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Bruzilla

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Tonio said:
I can see the humor in that. But I can also imagine the black parents or Jewish parents fearing that the Klansmen might be slipping poisoned water to their kids. Would that be a reasonable fear?

Humor Hell... it scared the pisswater out of me the first time I walked into that situation. I honestly thought I was toast! But I can laugh about it now.

I guess that could be a reasonable fear to some, but not a realistic fear to many. The Klan went out of the lynch mob business a long time ago, now they seem to focus more on getting the message of the week out now, usually about how blacks and/or Jews are up to something nefarious.
 

Tri

Thank you, come again.
I absolutely love the irony on this. And did the Nazi's and Ohio policie actually think their was'nt going to be a riot, I mean damn how the hell did they not see that coming.
 
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