You will be made to care, part...oh, god!

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
Why don't you focus on living your life biblically and not what other people are doing?


fine, don't rob me at gun point and spend my money on things I find abhorrent .... pay for your own Abortions and pills
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
That's what you don't get. No matter how many times you say it they haven't taken anything away from you. You still have all the rights and benefits you had previously. Just because you don't believe they should have that right doesn't mean you are being persecuted.
If you need to have it explained to you, you will never get it.
You are just what the Liberal Doctor ordered.
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
fine, don't rob me at gun point and spend my money on things I find abhorrent .... pay for your own Abortions and pills
Already done and done. But your religion doesn't superceed the rights of others. If you don't want to use contraception don't. If you don't want an abortion don't have one.
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
If you need to have it explained to you, you will never get it.
You are just what the Liberal Doctor ordered.
You mean because you can't even explain it to yourself other than "my Christian rights are under attack"? Sounds like the snowflake victim mentality you complain about.
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
And if you don't want to provide your products or services to someone, then just don't.

Right?
Nope. Business that are open to the public are under different obligations then and individual is to themselves and their beliefs
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
Well you have Sapidus on your side. LMAO.

Hey. It's my opinion, just like you have yours. If you want to marry a man , go ahead, It's all legal now.

It isn't taking away from me personally, it is taking away from everyone, if you need an explanation of it I cannot win.Simply because you need it explained.
Because there is no explanation. Does every divorce take away from you? Maybe you should focus your efforts on the divorce rate in this country instead of keeping two
People fromPursuing life, love and the pursuit of happiness
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
If I may ...

The City ordinances apply to only those within the city limits. An East Lansing cop can't ticket a person jaywalking in Windsor Charter Township. As long as this guy is abiding by the city ordinances, while within the city limits, he is fine. The city has no jurisdiction here at all. To wit:

"m. Complying with the City of East Lansing’s Civil Rights ordinances and the public policy against discrimination contained in Chapter 22 of the East Lansing City Code while at the ELFM and as a general business practice. (Appendix B)"
and
"C H A P T E R 1
Boundaries and Subdivisions of the City [East Lansing]
1.1 1 Boundaries: The territory of the City shall be all that territory included within the boundaries of the City as established in accordance with all applicable laws."

He has turned no one away, or discriminated against anyone, while at the market. The city will lose. And in fact, are the ones, (the city) who are doing the discriminating.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Because there is no explanation. Does every divorce take away from you? Maybe you should focus your efforts on the divorce rate in this country instead of keeping two
People fromPursuing life, love and the pursuit of happiness
People will accept just about anything. I am sure there are those who accept Kathy Griffins beheading picture.
Why try to explain morals and common decency to people who have no use for it.

Liberals accept things that a lot of people find abhorrent.

It would just waste my time and yours.
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
If I may ...

The City ordinances apply to only those within the city limits. An East Lansing cop can't ticket a person jaywalking in Windsor Charter Township. As long as this guy is abiding by the city ordinances, while within the city limits, he is fine. The city has no jurisdiction here at all. To wit:

"m. Complying with the City of East Lansing’s Civil Rights ordinances and the public policy against discrimination contained in Chapter 22 of the East Lansing City Code while at the ELFM and as a general business practice. (Appendix B)"
and
"C H A P T E R 1
Boundaries and Subdivisions of the City [East Lansing]
1.1 1 Boundaries: The territory of the City shall be all that territory included within the boundaries of the City as established in accordance with all applicable laws."

He has turned no one away, or discriminated against anyone, while at the market. The city will lose. And in fact, are the ones, (the city) who are doing the discriminating.
Good Post.
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
People will accept just about anything. I am sure there are those who accept Kathy Griffins beheading picture.
Why try to explain morals and common decency to people who have no use for it.

Liberals accept things that a lot of people find abhorrent.

It would just waste my time and yours.
You can't defend it because it is indefensible. Your religious beliefs don't supersede other people's human rights.

50 years ago people had brown hair. Now people have auburn , mocha, chestnut expanding the definition of soenthing doesn't lessen what you have unless you are truying to deny others of what you have.
 

Bird Dog

Bird Dog
PREMO Member
Already done and done. But your religion doesn't superceed the rights of others. If you don't want to use contraception don't. If you don't want an abortion don't have one.
Others cannot force me to do things against my Religion. i don't want to pay for other persons abortions and birth control. thats up to them. i also don't want to pay to support women who have five babies with five different baby daddies, even though that has nothing to do with my Religion. If two dudes want to have perverted sex and call it marriage, so be it, it doesn't cheapen my marriage or change my belief that marriage is between a man and a woman.

Don't force me to bake them a cake. I've stated before, i refused to do business with lots of people, for lots of different reasons, it was my choice and my right.
 

PeoplesElbow

Well-Known Member
Well you have Sapidus on your side. LMAO.

Hey. It's my opinion, just like you have yours. If you want to marry a man , go ahead, It's all legal now.

It isn't taking away from me personally, it is taking away from everyone, if you need an explanation of it I cannot win.Simply because you need it explained.
1. Spadius is an idiot.

2. You can't answer what it is taking away, just say you don't like it and be honest about it.

3. I believe the that everyone has the right to choose who they do business with and the type of services they provide.
 
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Sapidus

Well-Known Member
1. Spadius is an idiot.

2. You can't answer what it is taking away, just say you don't like it and be honest about it.

3. I believe the that everyone has the right to choose who they do business with and the type of services they provide.
Screw both of you. I can argue my own beliefs as you should. There's no reason to bring me into your discussions.
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
Others cannot force me to do things against my Religion. i don't want to pay for other persons abortions and birth control. thats up to them. i also don't want to pay to support women who have five babies with five different baby daddies, even though that has nothing to do with my Religion. If two dudes want to have perverted sex and call it marriage, so be it, it doesn't cheapen my marriage or change my belief that marriage is between a man and a woman.

Don't force me to bake them a cake. I've stated before, i refused to do business with lots of people, for lots of different reasons, it was my choice and my right.
Where to even start with you?

They aren't calling it marriage the government is now. Lots of straight people have "perverted sex" what does that have to do with anything?

Well don't become a baker or offer your services to the public and then docsrsminate against who gets them. Do you. It seven black people, handicapped people, veterans, Jews? You not get to decide based on someone's religion, sex, color or sexual
preference.
 

hotbikermama40

New Member
Where to even start with you?

They aren't calling it marriage the government is now. Lots of straight people have "perverted sex" what does that have to do with anything?

Well don't become a baker or offer your services to the public and then docsrsminate against who gets them. Do you. It seven black people, handicapped people, veterans, Jews? You not get to decide based on someone's religion, sex, color or sexual
preference.
If you and your lady-man-friend choose to marry, and the Catholic Church refuses to marry you, which they will, there's nothing you can do. The government's ultimate legalizing same-sex marriage throughout the states is an egregious breach of separation of Church and State.
Which is why you and your lady-man-friend will have a *commitment ceremony*. I had one of those with my 1st grade boyfriend. Our marriage wasn't real, either.
The moral fabric of our society is what is suffering from all the liberal, progressive thinking.
Side note...and this is a dead-serious question: did you ever notice that the reasoning suggested to validate same-sex unions would equally support pedophilia? Think about it.
 

PeoplesElbow

Well-Known Member
The moral fabric of our society is what is suffering from all the liberal, progressive thinking.
Side note...and this is a dead-serious question: did you ever notice that the reasoning suggested to validate same-sex unions would equally support pedophilia? Think about it.
Which reasons would these be?

Two consenting adults that love each other, nope
Inheritance pass down with the usual spouse tax benefit, nope
Legal spousal privileges, cant see how

As much as Christians want to make it about something else, government recognizing marriage is nothing but a legal agreement. Anything else as you put it would be a violation of the separation of church and state. After all as I mentioned before atheists can get married.
 

hotbikermama40

New Member
Which reasons would these be?

Two consenting adults that love each other, nope
Inheritance pass down with the usual spouse tax benefit, nope
Legal spousal privileges, cant see how

As much as Christians want to make it about something else, government recognizing marriage is nothing but a legal agreement. Anything else as you put it would be a violation of the separation of church and state. After all as I mentioned before atheists can get married.
A pedophile will swear vehemently that "they love each other" and that their love is "natural". They were "born this way".
That's the reasoning I was referring to. If those unions were to become legal, the rights and benefits you mentioned would follow.
You make a good point about the government's role. So thanks for the reminder that a marriage recognized by the government is the civil part and whatever religion the couple subscribe to defines the nature of that union in terms of spirituality.
 

Bird Dog

Bird Dog
PREMO Member
Where to even start with you?

They aren't calling it marriage the government is now. Lots of straight people have "perverted sex" what does that have to do with anything?

Well don't become a baker or offer your services to the public and then docsrsminate against who gets them. Do you. It seven black people, handicapped people, veterans, Jews? You not get to decide based on someone's religion, sex, color or sexual
preference.
1. They fought for it to be called marriage, civil unions was not enough
2. We call it kinky for reason, we don't call it normal.
3. Never did I not do business with someone based on those criteria, but a i refused to do business with a lot others. Where does it end with y'all to keep telling me how i have to live and and conduct my business. Like I stated before, I wouldn't do business with you because because you are a gay black Muslin but because your and idiot and thank God there is not a law against that yet.

You and your ilk hate our lives, we don't hate yours except when you constantly push your agendas on us.
We are happy, leave us the F alone.....
 

PeoplesElbow

Well-Known Member
A pedophile will swear vehemently that "they love each other" and that their love is "natural". They were "born this way".
That's the reasoning I was referring to. If those unions were to become legal, the rights and benefits you mentioned would follow.
You make a good point about the government's role. So thanks for the reminder that a marriage recognized by the government is the civil part and whatever religion the couple subscribe to defines the nature of that union in terms of spirituality.
I think pedophilia is a one way street, you can not consent below a certain age and should not be able to either. Pretty sure you aren't talking about something like a 22 year old falling for a 17 year old.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
I think pedophilia is a one way street, you can not consent below a certain age and should not be able to either. Pretty sure you aren't talking about something like a 22 year old falling for a 17 year old.


how low do youi go ...... several teachers have been busted for banging 14 yr old boys
 
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