this week, Benjamin Netanyahu will address Congress on the topic of his Country's fear of violence from his neighbor. he will plea for help, but some look at this in the most disdainful manner. now, some of you are seemingly very intelligent and probably have some salient, succinct points of view on this topic. please share them.....
your opinion please
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Hijinx
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Those who wish to destroy Israel could have all the peace they wanted (of course they don't want peace) if they just leave Israel alone.
Our President seems hell- bent on Iran getting their Nuke so they can attach it to their new ICBM and become a Nuclear power with suicidal intentions.
One day Israel will have to take them out in order to survive.
This is what I believe. Others may have different ideas If it happens the Middle East will glow,because Israel is not going to peacefully walk into the gas chambers again.
This time they are going to take their enemies with them.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
If we care about Israel and wish them to survive, why have the last two US presidents conducted operations in their region that have done nothing but imperil them more and more with each new action? Good intention or bad, the results of our actions this past 14 years has increased their risk, exponentially.
Maybe he is coming to ask us to butt the #### out?
I believe that is what he is going to tell Congress. You fix Iran or we will fix Iran. Fair enough warning I think
Hijinx
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I agree with both of you!
And he is correct in doing so.
PsyOps
Pixelated
I doubt it. He need our support. He wants our direct support. I do think he should (if he doesn't) say "What you all are doing is not working. If I may suggest to you how to fight this war... Now we could use your help." His focus will certainly be on Iran. Obama has done everything in his power to enable Iran to continue, if not expedite, their nuke programs. I am mixed about whether we should really even stop them. We've allowed so many dangerous countries get them; why not Iran? Well, it's the conventional belief that they will use them on Israel post haste once they have the capacity to deliver them. If this is the reality, it should be a big concern to us.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
I doubt it too, but I just can't help thinking of what would be right, or at least much better, in any given issues. In my view, we've done nothing but perpetuate and expand Israel's problems for 50 years by, in essence, making them give back every victory they've ever had. So, instead of a war setting things, we, in our infinite desire to meddle and our abject lack of interest in learning from the past, here we are yet again.
It us US who made Iran rich enough to have the the programs. It is US and our stunning lack of understand, or lack of interest, in how things are over there, that simply makes matter worse. Time and time again. The region is in chaos and it is our fault because of WE did and most of us don't even care what we did or why; my country right or wrong.
That has consequences.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
I don't believe that. I get the thinking and I get the existential risk however, in effect, if Israel nukes Iran out of fear of Iran nuking them, I'm not sure I can think of a more sure way to unify the Muslim world, including Turkey, against them as well as completely disable us from being on their side anymore. I used to ascribe to that thinking; Israel will deal with it. But, we've mucked it up so bad over there, can they???
Consider; this morning, Israel nuked Iran.
Then what?
It's like committing suicide out of fear of death.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Then what? What does the region look like post Israel nuclear strike on Iran?
LibertyBeacon
Unto dust we shall return
Pakistan, Israel, and India never signed the nuclear nonproliferation treaty.
DPRK signed it, but withdrew after violating it. Same with Iraq and Syria.
Do all of these countries merit the same attention as Iran? Why or why not?
DPRK signed it, but withdrew after violating it. Same with Iraq and Syria.
Do all of these countries merit the same attention as Iran? Why or why not?
LibertyBeacon
Unto dust we shall return
Benny NuttyYahoo is under investigation by the International Criminal Court. People under investigation by this body are not supposed to be allowed into the United States. Is an exception being made?
Larry Gude
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If you had to pick a leader for the region would you pick the leader of Iran or Turkey or Saudi or Jordan or Egypt or Libya or Syria or Iraq?
Or Israel?
LibertyBeacon
Unto dust we shall return
When it comes to picking leaders, i will do as I always do: decline to participate.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
If your position is you have no position then that should keep you from commenting. at the very least, and to not be taken seriously if you do. There is no intelligent criticism of Israel and whomever is their ELECTED leader at the moment that can be made in absence of consideration of their neighborhood.
Vince
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Don't think he is going to put up with Iran getting Nukes.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Then why is he coming here?
LibertyBeacon
Unto dust we shall return
Oh, I think my position is very clear.
Our foreign policy, ostensibly, is up to us. One of the things we've not been able to discuss for the last 30 years is our policy towards Israel. Whether or not we want to be involved in fighting Israeli wars is something we should talk about. We may vote yes, this is what we want done in our name. We may absolutely want our military members killed in Yemen or Iraq or some other place in support of these people.
But the point is we are not talking about it.
Israel in and of itself is of no particular worth to the U.S. They have no resources we need. They have no manpower of particular import, and overall their association with the U.S. is negative. That is immutable fact.
Now what you or I may want to do about it is entirely different.
But for anyone to stand up and say that our support of Israel doesn't hurt us, that our support of KSA doesn't hurt us, that our support of Mubarak didn't hurt us is to defy reality.
And *that* is what the goyim are whispering, but NO ONE is listening.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Given we're are discussing it right here in these forums I find that an absurd position.