This Never Should Have Been Published
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Larry Gude
Strung Out
Close.
We shouldn't be behaving like that which we say we despise.
We shouldn't be behaving like that which we say we despise.
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
Isn't it nice we have CIA agents who cannot keep a secret?
They cannot see the damage they have done with our relations with the Mossad?
Why would a real agency work with us when we cannot keep our mouths shut?
The story lets the cat out of the bag and then goes on to try to justify the reasons the CIA participated in this operation.
The man was hurting us, he needed to be gotten rid of.
Then they spill the beans on how it was done.
We do not have any intelligence agencies any longer. We have sieves with people waiting to write books and spill their guts.
horse sh i t ..... would you prefer 10,000 troops on the ground
this is exactly how you deal with people like this .....
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Most powerful economy on the planet. Or, were. Most powerful military, ever. And we have to resort like behaving like what we claim to detest?
I'm never quite sure if you simply don't get it or don't want to. You honestly think we're some sort of handcuffed, pathetic nation that HAS to resort to behaving like what we claim to detest?? Really??? Or no?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
"Wanh! Wanh!!! Low down, sneaky scumbags! We're better than them! We shouldn't tolerate that!"
"Pssst....no. We do it, too!"
"Uh.....err.....well, when we do it it is different and they should just accept that and not do it..."
"Pssst....no. We do it, too!"
"Uh.....err.....well, when we do it it is different and they should just accept that and not do it..."
Midnightrider
Well-Known Member
They are not going to get it Larry. They think we should be over there killing people.....
PsyOps
Pixelated
I’d like to know specifically what you mean by “what we claim we detest”. What is it you are saying we detest in the context of this operation?
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
In Ohio they have people waiting on death row because they cannot figure out a way to execute them that will make everyone happy.
They need the proper drugs.
Take these a-holes out in a field ,sit them in a chair with dynamite under it , and blow them to hell.
Did they care how they murdered the people they killed.
Execute them, get the job done and stop worrying about how to do it.
For that matter there are thousands of drug that will kill them ---use them.
Now we have this terrorist who was hard to get to, he had participated in the killing of a lot of people and we are supposed to worry about how he got it?
Dirty jobs sometimes done dirty. That's the way the mop flops.
We are on the receiving end of it enough.
But when you have a security agency that leaks worse than the Titanic it's hardly a surprise when others do not want to work with you.
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
So we blew this guy up with a car that was carefully prepared to not cause any collateral damage. There was none.
That's terrible.
But it's ok to kill innocents with drones?
PsyOps
Pixelated
I'm sure you're not speaking for Larry in saying he approves our drone program?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
...just started a thread about that...
Hijinx
Well-Known Member
I never speak for Larry--or to him.
I am only saying that we attack certain targeted people with Drones and collateral damage is done. Civilians are killed.
I fail to see much difference in that and getting this guy with a car bomb.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Assassination. Violating rule of law.
We executed a guy with no due process foreign soil and simply made up enough excuse to stomach it; to save US lives in Iraq.
We did that instead of just winning the war in Iraq which would have served the same purpose; protecting US troops without having to violate every principle our guys were supposedly sent to protect.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Drones is a scum bag, un American, sick way to avoid just winning the war and being done with it. Again, we use methods we, supposedly, abhor, in the name of preserving the principles we're violating.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
PsyOps
Pixelated
So, now when we kill terrorists, it’s considered assassination?
Who was Imad Mughniyah, a senior Hezbollah figure
You don't consider this guy to be an enemy combatant in this 'war'? Enemy combatants are afforded 'due process'? We killed a bad guy. How does that compare to suicide bombers that indiscriminately butcher innocent civilians?
PsyOps
Pixelated
So you disapprove of this action?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
If we fought this way 75 years ago we'd still be fighting Germans and Japanese and would probably be communist long before now.
edinsomd
New Member
No due process?
FTA:" The authority to kill Mughniyah required a presidential finding by President George W. Bush. The attorney general, the director of national intelligence, the national security adviser and the Office of Legal Counsel at the Justice Department all signed off on the operation, one former intelligence official said.
The former official said getting the authority to kill Mughniyah was a “rigorous and tedious” process. “What we had to show was he was a continuing threat to Americans,” the official said, noting that Mughniyah had a long history of targeting Americans dating back to his role in planning the 1983 bombing of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut."
That's as much or more due process then when Barry drones American citizens on foreign soil.