Addiction

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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I don't know. Probably non-functioning, street-living, crime committing. Alcohol, crack, meth, heroin. That stuff.

What would you consider hard core?

My mom was a Crisis Intervention Specialist before she retired, and she's been in AA since I was a young child. I've seen chronic alcoholics, like lay in the gutter types, get and stay sober for decades. I've seen pot smokers give up the ganja. A guy I dated in high school was a major coke head well into adulthood, but he's been clean for probably 20 years now.

What I've never seen or heard of is a heroin or crack addict get and stay clean for any real length of time. The couple handfuls of ones I've known personally either are still on the junk or they're dead. Which doesn't mean it doesn't happen, it just means I've never known anyone personally who's done it.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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Know anyone who was a hardcore addict and now has at least 10-20 years clean?

yeah the guy who taught me plumbing in the early 90's, was a heroin freak in the late 60's early 70s left home at 16 .....

claimed to have smoked dope with Janis ... at winter something in 69
.. and saw Zappa @ Laural race track where Zeppelin was the opening act - he said Frank was too deep for them


got saved in the late 70's and never stuck another needle in his arm again ...
 

afjess1989

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My mom was a Crisis Intervention Specialist before she retired, and she's been in AA since I was a young child. I've seen chronic alcoholics, like lay in the gutter types, get and stay sober for decades. I've seen pot smokers give up the ganja. A guy I dated in high school was a major coke head well into adulthood, but he's been clean for probably 20 years now.

What I've never seen or heard of is a heroin or crack addict get and stay clean for any real length of time. The couple handfuls of ones I've known personally either are still on the junk or they're dead. Which doesn't mean it doesn't happen, it just means I've never known anyone personally who's done it.

I know someone who did crack for many Years. He has now been clean for 8 years and still counting.
 

Chris0nllyn

Well-Known Member
I know someone who spent pretty much all of their younger years addicted to heroin, and doing pretty much any other drug known to man.

That person eventually spent time in prison. They now work a full time job, pay taxes, and own a brand new truck.

They have been clean for well over 20 years.
 

Goldenhawk

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I know a few people with pretty messed up backgrounds who are clean now. Don't know the dirty specifics but they willingly share their story to help others. Check out the Celebrate Recovery group that meets Friday nights at Our Father's House church on Rt 4 in California.
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
Asking is what I do when I have questions or am curious?

Serious answer, go to a Narc Anon meeitng - or whatever the meetings are caled for the families of alcoholics and addicts.
I would define "hardcore" as any addict where the drugs have totally taken over their life. I don't think there is another type of adict.
There are recreational users, but once you are hooked, the drugs rule your life until you break that hold.
 

inkah

Active Member
Thanks, All.

After 25 years of watching the insanity, I am pretty much done pushing the "I believe" button. Not sure I could stomach the churn of hope and let down you find in meetings. I worry about the next generation who hasn't decided to walk away from the endless cycle yet. Here's to hoping for their hope, if I can muster it...
 
Thanks, All.

After 25 years of watching the insanity, I am pretty much done pushing the "I believe" button. Not sure I could stomach the churn of hope and let down you find in meetings. I worry about the next generation who hasn't decided to walk away from the endless cycle yet. Here's to hoping for their hope, if I can muster it...
It sucks but you have to stop beating yourself up and cut 'em loose. At some point you you have to decide that instead of that person destroying two lives... you want yours back. Step away from the things you truly can't control and begin to live your life again, man. :yay:
 

vraiblonde

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It sucks but you have to stop beating yourself up and cut 'em loose. At some point you you have to decide that instead of that person destroying two lives... you want yours back. Step away from the things you truly can't control and begin to live your life again, man. :yay:

This bears a re-read ^^^

If the addict in question is an adult, you cannot control them or their behavior. They have to own their addiction and want to make the changes necessary, you cannot do it for them.

:huggy:
 
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