Adding to the list of "haters"

Merlin99

Merlin99

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Midnightrider said:
I guess you guys are just going to ignore that whole part about Merkel just being re-elected to another 4 year term....
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I'm guessing you have no idea how a parliamentarian system works. A "no confidence" vote can get you canned the day after the election. All that 4 year term means is that's the outside time frame for an election, it can happen any time before that though.
 
Kyle

Kyle

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Merlin99 said:
I'm guessing you have no idea how a parliamentarian system works. A "no confidence" vote can get you canned the day after the election. All that 4 year term means is that's the outside time frame for an election, it can happen any time before that though.
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You're talking to the wall.

All you'll get is some flavor of "Nuh-Uh!"
 
Midnightrider

Midnightrider

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Merlin99 said:
I'm guessing you have no idea how a parliamentarian system works. A "no confidence" vote can get you canned the day after the election. All that 4 year term means is that's the outside time frame for an election, it can happen any time before that though.
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thats just like saying an American president can be impeached at anytime.

Do you know what happens in Germany where if they fail to get a majority vote of no confidence? How about how many times a vote of no confidence was successful in Germany?
 
Gilligan

Gilligan

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How the Germans themselves reported on Merkel's precarious position after the last election:

A collapse of exploratory talks on forming a new German government under Chancellor Angela Merkel would likely trigger snap elections, a prospect fraught with risk for Europe's top economic power.

The inconclusive September 24th general election left Merkel seeking new partners as she attempts to embark on a fourth term.
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https://www.thelocal.de/20171117/heres-how-germany-could-end-up-having-a-snap-election-next-year

She's still on shaky ground.

It was not that long ago that something similar happened..

Federal elections were held in Germany on 18 September 2005 to elect the members of the 16th Bundestag. This became necessary after a motion of confidence in Chancellor Gerhard Schröder failed on 1 July. Following the defeat of Schröder's Social Democratic Party (SPD) in a state election, Schröder asked his supporters to abstain from the Bundestag motion, knowing the motion would fail and thus triggering an early federal election.
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and..

In the Federal Republic of Germany, elections to the Bundestag must take place within 46–48 months after the first sitting of the previous chamber. The President of Germany may dissolve the chamber prematurely if the government loses a confidence motion (at the request of the Chancellor), or if no majority government can be formed.

1972 federal election: Chancellor Willy Brandt's coalition between the SPD and FDP had been elected in 1969 with a relatively narrow 20-seat majority. The government then lost their majority after several MPs defected to the CDU/CSU opposition due to the government's Ostpolitik foreign policy, especially the recognition of the Oder-Neisse line. Benefitting from Brandt's personal popularity, the government was re-elected with a strengthened majority.
1983 federal election: The government of Chancellor Helmut Schmidt had been ousted in October 1982 after the FDP had switched from being allied with the SPD to being allied with the CDU-CSU union. Although the majority of MPs now supported the government of the new Chancellor Helmut Kohl, he called an early election in order to gain an explicit mandate to govern. To do this, he deliberately lost a confidence motion by asking for his coalition MPs to abstain. There was some controversy over this move and the decision was challenged in the Constitutional Court, but given approval. Kohl's government won the election with a net loss of one seat.
2005 federal election: Chancellor Gerhard Schröder deliberately lost a confidence motion to trigger new elections after a series of state election losses, culminating with North Rhine-Westphalia, caused the opposition to gain a wide majority in the Bundesrat. The government also feared that left-wing SPD MPs were threatening to block legislation. As with the 1983 dissolution, it was challenged and upheld in the Constitutional Court. The election produced a hung parliament due to the gains made by The Left party, resulting in a grand coalition being formed between the CDU-CSU and SPD. Schröder lost his chancellorship due to his party narrowly coming second in the elections
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Midnightrider

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So how many times has Germany used that option against a sitting chancellor and what happens if they fail to get the votes?
 
JustACitizen

JustACitizen

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Midnightrider said:
So how many times has Germany used that option against a sitting chancellor and what happens if they fail to get the votes?
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Before they can even take a no confidence vote, they have to vote/agree on a replacement.

Given the makeup of the Bundestag, I think Merkel doesn’t have anything to worry about.
 
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