Health is a civil rights issue .....
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If a town does this they generally sell bonds. if a private company does it, it gets a loan.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Folks historically loved company towns. Unless they lived in one.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
If we believe in public education, vacination, transportation, why on earth do we oppose basic health care for people?
I'm not trying to be funny, but what do you consider "basic health care"?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Something like 80%, or more, of health care is pretty basic, pretty simple and MUCH cheaper in terms of actual cost than what it is because our system is already socialized to privitizing gain and socializing loss. You could have cheap, ready care all over and people would simply pay $30 or 50 or whatever it was rather than $500 or worse that it is. Then, insure the expensive stuff.
because your trying to sell it as a civil right. A civil right is a set thing, not an umbrella that you can call anything you want the government to give you.
Restitution
New Member
This is just ridiculous.... how is this even an equitable comparison?
Public Eduction is something that I can participate in and utilize.
Public Vaccinations are something I can participate in and utilize
Public Transportation is something I can participate in and utilize
I CANNOT participate in and/or utilize YOUR health care now can I? Do I get to share YOUR prescription? Do I get to piggy-back on your health screening? Do I get to share your X-ray time?
Really??? Please tell me this was a knee-jerk reaction that you didn't think through...
This_person
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No one opposes basic health care for people. This is like not caring about immigrants - people are not against immigration, they're against ILLEGAL immigration.
No one opposes basic health care for people - they oppose PAYING for OTHER PEOPLE's basic health care.
Been watching and listening to the Socialist party lately?
Thats their new Banner! Everything is a #$^%ing civil right.
This_person
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This_person
Well-Known Member
Still waiting for an answer to this one.
SamSpade
Well-Known Member
THAT of course, is kind of how it used to be - insurance for the expensive stuff - "catastrophic care" - and pay for the rest.
It had a great way of limiting cost too - doctors didn't want five followups, didn't pay five staff members to track insurance and payments and so on.
You went up front and paid on the way out. The doctor's office had at most three people - the doctor, his assistant or nurse and his staff who handled payments.
You bought insurance to handle the BIG stuff - the hospital stays. It WAS, in fact, INSURANCE. You paid into it, and ran the risk you wouldn't collect at all.
NOW we have health *care* - it's not insurance, even though it USED to be. It pays a little, a lot or part of *everything*.
Some people are used to the idea that medical visits are "free" because they have a good health care provider and employer pays for it.
I've been doing that for years now.
Restitution
New Member
Utopian society thought says you are perfectly right in thinking this way.
Real world knowledge says that there will ALWAYS be people that will try to get something for free (in this case... their health care) and until that is stopped, someone has to pay for it. THIS is why it will never work unfortunately.