Healthcare is a Basic Human Right
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Those parents are psychotic. That baby is not going to make it home and would likely die in the car on the way. Then what are they going to do? Blame the hospital for that, too? Have him stuffed and mounted on the wall? Start him a FB page and Twitter feed? This has gone beyond ghoulish.
Do they intend to return the £1.4 mil in donations?
black dog
Free America
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Pixelated
In the end, these things always have a moral component to it. But I think I made it clear early on with a comment like this "this is what socialized medicine looks like", as if to say "are you sure this is what you want here; to have the government intrude into family medical matters?"
I believe this child is dead because the government decided that was more economically sound. Legalized murder. I believe there was a chance for these American doctors to provide their medical expertise to save this child. Even if there was the smallest of chances, Charlie should have been given the opportunity. This is, indeed the moral argument... Charlie was a human being, and LIFE is everyone's first birth right.
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Pixelated
I don't care. If I suck at something I want to know about it; not be in denial about it. I aim to improve my communications skills. And Vrai saying it isn't coming from some "you also suck as a person" standpoint. I can always count on Vrai to be brutally honest.
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Pixelated
And you'd leave your child in that hospital in the hands of the very people that resulted in Charlie's death?
Um, the hospital didn't cause his illness and are therefore not responsible for his death. All they did was prolong the inevitable.
If it were me, I'd have let him go long ago and not turned my baby's death into a media circus and psycho feeding frenzy, not to mention moneymaking scheme.
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Pixelated
Did you know Justina Pelletier has the same disease as baby Charlie? Mitochondrial Disease. And she's still alive.
The Justina Pelletier story is only similar in the sense that she was taken away from her parents against their will because they misdiagnosed her condition. In the end, the parents sued and won.
I don't care. If I suck at something I want to know about it; not be in denial about it. I aim to improve my communications skills. And Vrai saying it isn't coming from some "you also suck as a person" standpoint. I can always count on Vrai to be brutally honest.
Someone needs to care enough about you to be honest. I'll leave it to others to blow the sunshine up the asses.
black dog
Free America
So the doctors gave him this disease that maybe 15 other people have in the world and kills you generally within two years?
Actually, the American doctor wanted to do experimental treatment. AKA use him as a lab rat and guinea pig.
Which is fine, but let's call things what they are.
No. Charlie Gard has other severe complications and is not in the same situation as Justina Pelletier.
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Pixelated
Oh, so we have a Josef Mengele situation here? You really have an extreme way of trying make your point; and I don't even know what point you're trying to make here.
This is it, your child is going to die. There is nothing else out there. And you're going to say no at a chance to save your own child, simply because you refuse your child to be used as a "lab rat".
experimental is exactly that..experimental. The doctor called it that. Simple stuff.
Um, actually the extremist here is you. You're the one crying about Mengele, not me.
Death seems to bother you, a professed Christian, much more than it does me. You also seem unwilling to "let go and let God", whereas I, the atheist, am completely comfortable with it.
There is much irony to be found.
